So Pot, you missed the part where my blower/motor is covered under warranty, publicly, by Kevin at UGR for not using one? You sir, are the dipshit that would not take advantage of the added hp achieved by not using a setup WARRANTIED by the builder, not I. No real surprise who's corner your in.
You can bet your ass that, using your scenario above, if my homes a/c unit was guaranteed to be more efficient and SAFE to run w/o a filter to cool my home UNDER WARRANTY, I would do it. Your plan back fired, huh?
The addled brain occupying the space between your ears is easy to persuade I see. No need for the vast experience of others before you, just faith in Providence.
For your Viper's sake, put a filter on. Take it off when you race. You do the Viper community a disservice by spreading misinformation.
I thought your warranty was 2 years? If you drive 1000 miles a year, you aren't gonna blow the engine (most likely in that time). However, how about 5 years down the road...or the next owner who drives it more than 20 miles a week. Pretty sure if I found out an engine had no air filter on it for its life, I would walk away.
cut and paste from a post kevin made on my pic thread recently.
I'm including this information in all threads it has been mentioned. We give all of our customers the option of running their Paxton blowers with a fine mesh metal screen instead of the filter. We understand that their intitial goal was performance and all performance comes at some cost to longevity. Our experience with the mesh filters is that we have never seen any detrimental effects in any of our builds. As such, we feel it is a reasonable decision the customer who wants the extra horsepower can make to go with the mesh. We do warranty both the blower and the motor against damage from this configuration and have no reluctance in doing so based on our historical data. Obviously if you live on a gravel road, you would want to opt for the standard filter. We have no such customers to date even in North Carolina. We also warranty our King Kong TT and engine builds for two years and 24,000 miles and that's pretty rare for performance builds at those levels.
I thought your warranty was 2 years? If you drive 1000 miles a year, you aren't gonna blow the engine (most likely in that time). However, how about 5 years down the road...or the next owner who drives it more than 20 miles a week. Pretty sure if I found out an engine had no air filter on it for its life, I would walk away.
Oh and when your in the market to buy a viper let us know.
The addled brain occupying the space between your ears is easy to persuade I see. No need for the vast experience of others before you, just faith in Providence.
For your Viper's sake, put a filter on. Take it off when you race. You do the Viper community a disservice by spreading misinformation.
cut and paste from a post kevin made on my pic thread recently.
I'm including this information in all threads it has been mentioned. We give all of our customers the option of running their Paxton blowers with a fine mesh metal screen instead of the filter. We understand that their intitial goal was performance and all performance comes at some cost to longevity. Our experience with the mesh filters is that we have never seen any detrimental effects in any of our builds. As such, we feel it is a reasonable decision the customer who wants the extra horsepower can make to go with the mesh. We do warranty both the blower and the motor against damage from this configuration and have no reluctance in doing so based on our historical data. Obviously if you live on a gravel road, you would want to opt for the standard filter. We have no such customers to date even in North Carolina. We also warranty our King Kong TT and engine builds for two years and 24,000 miles and that's pretty rare for performance builds at those levels.
ZOMG...what a long time. 24k miles....wow!!! I am SO impressed. I am sure nobody will EVER drive more than that in their Viper. What a bulletproof warranty.
ZOMG...what a long time. 24k miles....wow!!! I am SO impressed. I am sure nobody will EVER drive more than that in their Viper. What a bulletproof warranty.
You are indeed a specially challenged child aren't you PFR? It clearly makes no mention of a time period involved for running no filter. It does however speak to UGR's covering of TT kit installs and motor builds being 2yrs/24k miles. I have no doubt there is a finite date at which one must pay for repairs. If you are inclined to know it, contact Kevin and just hope he doesn't try to take your curiousity and stuff it in your face alongside the camera Ron Sr. placed there.
Out of curiousity, how does that compare with CPE's coverage?
You are indeed a specially challenged child aren't you PFR? It clearly makes no mention of a time period involved for running no filter. It does however speak to UGR's covering of TT kit installs and motor builds being 2yrs/24k miles. I have no doubt there is a finite date at which one must pay for repairs. If you are inclined to know it, contact Kevin and just hope he doesn't try to take your curiousity and stuff it in your face alongside the camera Ron Sr. placed there.
Out of curiousity, how does that compare with CPE's coverage?
Well, now that CPE is offering an engine build, we'll see now won't we? What CPE does build is turbo systems. Lifetime warranty on all piping and the turbos and wastegates come with the company's warranty, which is pretty phenominal for both turbonetics and Tial.
BTW: Last time I checked, 2 years was an amount of time.
Wow...way to swing your dick around, cockbag. You really put the "ass" in class!!
Wait a minute, mccarlin said you need to be a paying member to have an opinion here so tip the piggy bank kid and chip in some. Then I can continue to listen to the buzz coming from your direction. Thanks for pointing that out mccarlin
Wait a minute, mccarlin said you need to be a paying member to have an opinion here so tip the piggy bank kid and chip in some. Then I can continue to listen to the buzz coming from your direction. Thanks for pointing that out mccarlin
Last time I paid, Pierce sold the site and pocketed the money. Why the fuck would I support a site that has more ads floating around than Baghdad after a "winning of hearts and minds" flyer drop.
I thought your warranty was 2 years? If you drive 1000 miles a year, you aren't gonna blow the engine (most likely in that time). However, how about 5 years down the road...or the next owner who drives it more than 20 miles a week. Pretty sure if I found out an engine had no air filter on it for its life, I would walk away.
again for Jr.
I'm including this information in all threads it has been mentioned. We give all of our customers the option of running their Paxton blowers with a fine mesh metal screen instead of the filter. We understand that their intitial goal was performance and all performance comes at some cost to longevity. Our experience with the mesh filters is that we have never seen any detrimental effects in any of our builds. As such, we feel it is a reasonable decision the customer who wants the extra horsepower can make to go with the mesh. We do warranty both the blower and the motor against damage from this configuration and have no reluctance in doing so based on our historical data. Obviously if you live on a gravel road, you would want to opt for the standard filter. We have no such customers to date even in North Carolina. We also warranty our King Kong TT and engine builds for two years and 24,000 miles and that's pretty rare for performance builds at those levels.
so again piss for brains, where does his post say 2 years /24k regarding my situation. Here's a hint. Stop looking, it does not. It may be 2/24 but it reads 2/24 regarding to engine builds and tt installs.
Last time I paid, Pierce sold the site and pocketed the money. Why the fuck would I support a site that has more ads floating around than Baghdad after a "winning of hearts and minds" flyer drop.
because mccarlin said to. And your cheap ass is advertising in your sig daily aren't you?
I'm including this information in all threads it has been mentioned. We give all of our customers the option of running their Paxton blowers with a fine mesh metal screen instead of the filter. We understand that their intitial goal was performance and all performance comes at some cost to longevity. Our experience with the mesh filters is that we have never seen any detrimental effects in any of our builds. As such, we feel it is a reasonable decision the customer who wants the extra horsepower can make to go with the mesh. We do warranty both the blower and the motor against damage from this configuration and have no reluctance in doing so based on our historical data. Obviously if you live on a gravel road, you would want to opt for the standard filter. We have no such customers to date even in North Carolina. We also warranty our King Kong TT and engine builds for two years and 24,000 miles and that's pretty rare for performance builds at those levels.
so again piss for brains, where does his post say 2 years /24k regarding my situation. Here's a hint. Stop looking, it does not. It may be 2/24 but it reads 2/24 regarding to engine builds and tt installs.
again tip the piggy bank and keep um coming.
Sounds like that vague warranty that RSI offers that you all break their balls about. Class time!
Sounds like that vague warranty that RSI offers that you all break their balls about.
Say what you will peewee. Last I checked there are many running around with work done by UGR and no complaints from the customers. I wonder how all this info from CPE keeps getting leaked out regarding it's craftmanship. Is it you? Is Paolo trying to sabotage his own gig? Wait, could it be customer feedback? Look at it this way putz, threads like this, although debatable on how they start, always seem to shed some light onto your "conquests". Paolo was wise to stop posting. You should do the same.
And please, unless you donate here, mccarlin is not interested in your thoughts.
Say what you will peewee. Last I checked there are many running around with work done by UGR and no complaints from the customers. I wonder how all this info from CPE keeps getting leaked out regarding it's craftmanship. Is it you? Is Paolo trying to sabotage his own gig? Wait, could it be customer feedback? Look at it this way putz, threads like this, although debatable on how they start, always seem to shed some light onto your "conquests". Paolo was wise to stop posting. You should do the same.
And please, unless you donate here, mccarlin is not interested in your thoughts.
Listen to all that negative customer feedback on Paolo's camp....wait, there is none!!