$10k is the turbo kit itself. The other $10k includes the AEM, fuel system upgrades, install, tuning, etc..
However, the original thread had this package at ~$15.5k.
S.
Ok. got it. So if I were to order a kit to install for someone, (hypothetically),
at $100/hr dealer rate plus extras what would I be looking at charging? How many hours does this take?
Outstanding numbers Paolo. So what your saying is when I want more power on my car I can build around your CPE KIT and break easly over 1200RWHP? COOL! Not to down UGR PAXTON kit but with built heads I think it made 9XX on Josh car.I wonder how much the ticket on that was.
When I was thinking about SC or TT my car , the first thing that came to mind was(( How much power can i make with the SC and a modded engine?....How much power can i make with TT and a modded engine?))NOW I KNOW!!!
I am so glad I went with your TT kit and not a SC that would of held me back on my goal.Just for the record you can save money since it is a DIY kit.
Outstanding numbers Paolo. So what your saying is when I want more power on my car I can build around your CPE KIT and break easly over 1200RWHP? COOL! Not to down UGR PAXTON kit but with built heads I think it made 9XX on Josh car.I wonder how much the ticket on that was.
When I was thinking about SC or TT my car , the first thing that came to mind was(( How much power can i make with the SC and a modded engine?....How much power can i make with TT and a modded engine?))NOW I KNOW!!!
I am so glad I went with your TT kit and not a SC that would of held me back on my goal.Just for the record you can save money since it is a DIY kit.
Well said, you made the right move...S/C'ers' won't even see your taillights you'll be so far ahead of them, lol! I'm looking to go this route as well...amazing package.
Outstanding numbers Paolo. So what your saying is when I want more power on my car I can build around your CPE KIT and break easly over 1200RWHP? COOL! Not to down UGR PAXTON kit but with built heads I think it made 9XX on Josh car.I wonder how much the ticket on that was.
When I was thinking about SC or TT my car , the first thing that came to mind was(( How much power can i make with the SC and a modded engine?....How much power can i make with TT and a modded engine?))NOW I KNOW!!!
I am so glad I went with your TT kit and not a SC that would of held me back on my goal.Just for the record you can save money since it is a DIY kit.
Nobody contested that TT cars are capable of higher horsepower levels. Are you aware of what kind of warranty you're getting with your CPE kit? I've been asking...
I don't think anybody ever said the UGR Paxton setup had the ability to make as much as a TT setup. Anybody who thinks that should consult more closely with their vendor of choice or spend lots of time using the "search" function on this board.
Some of us chose the Paxton for reasons other than its maximum power capabilities. That being said, I think it's safe to say that on my bone stock motor with JM heads, that setup made 950 rwhp on pump gas. On race gas with Strikers, I don't think 1000+ rwhp would have been out of the question.
I don't ever plan on needing that much power with this car. If I did, I would have planned on doing things the "right" way with a built shortblock and TT's. Don't want to put a bar or cage in my car, shield, harnesses, extended lug axles, loop (well...I'll do that), SFI flywheel and clutch, etc., etc....so 950 rwhp is plenty for my needs. I also strongly believe the TT kits (all of them) hack up the car much more than a Paxton install. I didn't want that. I didn't want the associated heat related to a set of compressors under the hood and plumbing everywhere, etc., etc..
Ultimately, most TT setups should be able to make more power. But ultimately, that doesn't make them the best choice for everybody.
S.
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Well said, you made the right move...S/C'ers' won't even see your taillights you'll be so far ahead of them, lol! I'm looking to go this route as well...amazing package.
Okay...when these particular cars start going down the track we'll have that answer for sure.
S.
Well said, you made the right move...S/C'ers' won't even see your taillights you'll be so far ahead of them, lol! I'm looking to go this route as well...amazing package.
I could think of a few that would be game for such a trial.
Why in the hell is everyone acting so surprised about the #'s. For God sakes, its a built viper motor with 20+lbs of boost. It should be making that kinda of power. Im not impressed at all because its been done by SVS, UGR & HEFFNER years ago. And I do mean YEARS ago. Damn, you guys need to wake up.
Why in the hell is everyone acting so surprised about the #'s. For God sakes, its a built viper motor with 20+lbs of boost. It should be making that kinda of power. Im not impressed at all because its been done by SVS, UGR & HEFFNER years ago. And I do mean YEARS ago. Damn, you guys need to wake up.
No one's surprised with the number. A blower car is capable of making it if one goes beyond a Paxton 2000. It's just the terms and the cost of that particular build are being skewed and difficult to nail down.
Nobody contested that TT cars are capable of higher horsepower levels. Are you aware of what kind of warranty you're getting with your CPE kit? I've been asking...
I think piping is the only thing but i look at the big picture, What can go out, The turbo(buy the rebuild kit..easy fix) The blowoff valve( about 200 dollars) The wastegate( about 200 as well) Vacuum lines( i can buy a roll for $7.00) I think you spend more money shipping the car back to UGR than any one of these parts, But i won't have to ship nothing to CPE since I can do it(( ALL MY SELF)). Oh and the car won't be down or gone for weeks.THATS THE BIG PICTURE
UGR has a very nice rep and offer a nice warrenty but what happens if, ...........never mind i won't comment since I don't know what all you get.
Why in the hell is everyone acting so surprised about the #'s. For God sakes, its a built viper motor with 20+lbs of boost. It should be making that kinda of power. Im not impressed at all because its been done by SVS, UGR & HEFFNER years ago. And I do mean YEARS ago. Damn, you guys need to wake up.
Good point Tony. Gotta believe the guys that preceeded CPE to this HP hurdle were doing this on built motors with main caps though. CPE must have a hell of a warranty to bump the boost above 20# and put up over 1300 rwhp on a customers car without their knowledge on an untouched bottom end.
Why in the hell is everyone acting so surprised about the #'s. For God sakes, its a built viper motor with 20+lbs of boost. It should be making that kinda of power. Im not impressed at all because its been done by SVS, UGR & HEFFNER years ago. And I do mean YEARS ago. Damn, you guys need to wake up.
I think piping is the only thing but i look at the big picture, What can go out, The turbo(buy the rebuild kit..easy fix) The blowoff valve( about 200 dollars) The wastegate( about 200 as well) Vacuum lines( i can buy a roll for $7.00) I think you spend more money shipping the car back to UGR than any one of these parts, But i won't have to ship nothing to CPE since I can do it(( ALL MY SELF)). Oh and the car won't be down or gone for weeks.THATS THE BIG PICTURE
UGR has a very nice rep and offer a nice warrenty but what happens if, ...........never mind i won't comment since I don't know what all you get.
Great, I was always concerned with something minor like a motor going south at 1200 rwhp+. Sure you thought of that though.
Come on guys! Let's not clutter up this thread with a bunch of nutswinging and give kudo's where it's due. And anytime a tuned Viper breaks 1300 RWHP kudo's are due.....running a $9.9K turbo kit or not* Great work raising the bar guys!
VIPERACING, When I first thought about getting TT on my car i called a few tuners to get price.NONE of them were under $25,000 and it was just the build w/o engine upgrades.I told myself, NO WAY can i see myself spend that much money on TT. I'm not BALLIN like some of you guys are so i waited.Paolo then came up with the kit so FOLKS LIKE ME can afford it.I know UGR,HEFF,SVS and all them other guys have been doing this for years but out of my reach. The whole point is that you can START with this kit for a good price and BUILD around to achive those numbers.That's something you can't do with a SC.
Come on guys! Let's not clutter up this thread with a bunch of nutswinging and give kudo's where it's due. And anytime a tuned Viper breaks 1300 RWHP kudo's are due.....running a $9.9K turbo kit or not* Great work raising the bar guys!
Yep...old hat. 1300 RWHP for around 25k happens all the time.
Hey guys,
Here are a few things that may add to the thread... the plotted hp / tq curve is not that far off from my dyno graph. My sheet has a big spike in the middle of it where I lost the tach signal for a second ...sorry, it happens sometimes. My dynojet will normally read all of the hp with or without a tach lead, but the speeds don't add up. I think I may have quit sampling a little early. I pulled the car to 6138 rpm and the speed on the graph shows that I never made it that far if you compare it to my vec log. The pull before this we ran alot more mph. Anyway my last real number on the rpm scale was 971/1078 before the tach signal was lost....that is pretty close to the numbers posted above. I just think I may have stopped sampling before the pull was over....the numbers may have been higher. The hp curve never crested or laid over which makes me think I cut it short.
Anyway, This car has some nice bolt ons, but you also have to realize that all pulls were made on Shell 93 octane with no water/ meth to begin and then 110 octane was added to that. My timing curve shows that....there is more in this car for sure....If there was water on the car, main caps, and some high octane fuel the numbers could be a little higher still ...
Later,
Joe
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