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Old January 12th, 2008, 08:33 PM   #1
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How much boost is safe?

On a totally stock Gen II motor between 2000-3000 rpms?

I've seen some pretty crazy dyno numbers in the lower RPM ranges, but I'm guessing those motors are built.

Just wondering what others are hitting on a stock motor, whether SC or turbo setups.



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Old January 12th, 2008, 08:41 PM   #2
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On a totally stock Gen II motor between 2000-3000 rpms?

I've seen some pretty crazy dyno numbers in the lower RPM ranges, but I'm guessing those motors are built.

Just wondering what others are hitting on a stock motor, whether SC or turbo setups.



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Depends on year - I would say 6-8 with a good tune...99s(98?) and earlier with forged internals can go a little deeper...

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Old January 12th, 2008, 08:55 PM   #3
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Old January 12th, 2008, 09:19 PM   #4
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I run 120 pounds at 2000 RPM, but after I changed to Turtle Wax, it dropped to only 110 pounds. I also use Armor All for protection, so I think that has something to do with it. I am running a 2000 GTS here and it seems safe as I use my seatbelt.
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Wow, that's much higher than I expected. Thanks for the numbers.

Once I'm complete with this project I'll post the gritty details.
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I'd say 6-8



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In all actuality, I would say 5-8 should be fine.
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Old January 12th, 2008, 11:40 PM   #7
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Yes 6-8 on stock motor sounds safe to me too.
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ZERO, there is nothing safe when it comes to boost.
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I agree on zero, there is a risk with boost, but the word "safe" epitomizes ambiguity here. I would consider "safe" in this context to mean problem free within reason and on a good tune you could hit 6-7 PSI safely, but I think even at 7, you are pushing the envelope, but again this is subjective at best to talk in relation to the use. Anything other than a perfect tune isn't safe, so I would be using WB's, log, tune, et cetera on any TT or SC application and I do all 3 myself. Any time you are pusing things beyond the designed tolerances, in this case NA to SC you are pushing the "safe" zone so the point in which I see is 6.5 or below for my level of acceptable tolerance.
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My stock 98 GTS had a Roe sc with 8# oulley and water/meth. It worked great! It probably wouldn't have been "safe" without the w/m. With the w/m it may have been "safe with the 10# pulley?

I don't think any other Forced Induction system can come close to 10# boost until over 3,000rpm.

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