Sounds like someone who is pretty proud of himself. Again not saying it is a bad thing, just clarifying that he is proud of his accomplishments. Hence ego. Let me put this in terms you can understand, UGR did a great job on Sean and Josh's car. They should be proud of what they got. I in no way bashed Kevin on this thread no matter what No Man has to say about it. If I said anything that has hurt Kevins feelings I apologize to Kevin. But I truly see nothing that I have said that could have hurt his feelings. When I first got on this board I said a lot of shit to a lot of people. Why? because I really didn't give a shit. I now have a great deal of respect for some of the people I bashed and wish I had not done it. Jason Heffner, Tony A to name a few. But we all got past that and have moved on. I originally had a great deal of respect for Kevin and can not put my finger on where it was lost. I still respect UGR for some of the great cars they have turned out. I really doubt that Kevin gives a rats ass what I personally think so why do you care so much.
You know Ed, trying to get you to use common sense or obvious facts in forming your arguments is like trying to use semaphore to get a gorilla to stop throwing his poop. Jay has my deepest sympathies. You can take that finger of yours that you don't know what to do with, jam it in your ass and diddle your brain stem. That may in turn, stimulate a cogent thought or two you then could share with us. Until such time, go weld an x-pipe on DB's Lawnboy.
LOL at the person who has never worked on either system or had anything to do with them but can write a check with the best of 'em.
Worked with/on system = person with pride and vested interest in seeing its success, not nut-swinger
You just can't be fucking serious, can you? Check writer,ROTFLMAO. Bro, you are in automotive engineering, correct? Does your line of work, or your desired line of work after studies completed, involve collecting a pay check? I never understood the check writer term, I mean really man, think about how fucking dumb that sounds. Do you need me to explain why? PFR, you are the quintessential definition of a nutswinger. Unless you receive a royalties check for input given to CPE that is.
BTW, When my home was built I wrote checks to the cable guy, plumbers, electricians, building contractor, and many others here and there. FUCK, they must all be walking around thinking I am a complete fucking tard instead of gracious they have a skill capable of supporting their families. I take your "check writer" and raise you a nutswinger.
Why is everyone making such a big deal about the 900"advertised"h.p. with stock heads. Jesus is it really that big of a deal if the car makes 880 or 900? Hell even if the car makes 850rwhp it should actually be advertised as 1000+ for $$$$$ and that should be the end of it. If someone is going to make a big deal about a 20 or even 40 h.p. difference then they have a problem because 850+ anything that is street driven is really to much. This h.p. war is getting to be a little ridiculous. I'm not a customer of UGR but I would have to say that they are delivering every bit, and then some of what they are advertising.
Quoted for NoMa'am per his post 221 (quoted below) because I agreed with the post about the 900 number not having to be set in stone.
So you see my friend, the "thought" was already planted....not by me but by someone else. Why did you not chastise him if it is such a sin ? ARE YOU saying if it were to make 895 that it is a failure on that particular car ? Because that's sure not what I'm saying.....however, I'm sure you will try to twist it around.
Edit: Now I see, VIPERRACING is a customer of UGR so it's ok for him to say it but not for me to agree.
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Originally Posted by No Man
"875whp ... 915whp ??? Does it really matter from car to car ? Does it matter in regard to the advertised package ? That's for the person shelling out the cash to decide." Is this where you plant the thought that the stock package might only make 875rwhp but the buyer is the one to decide if that matters? Why even mention that the package might only make 875rwhp when one hasn't even been finished yet?
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LOL at the person who has never worked on either system or had anything to do with them but can write a check with the best of 'em.
Worked with/on system = person with pride and vested interest in seeing its success, not nut-swinger
Wait, you have a vested interest in seeing CPE succeed? I assume this is a monetary interest? Care to explain? I know Ed welds a ton of shit for Paolo but I wasn't aware what you specific role was with CPE.
I'm not a customer or a squat'r on either camp but DAMN!!
You whiny a**'s just can't be happy for anyone outside of your own realm?!!
These two guys have VERY respectable #'s from a tuner (regardless of whom it was).
Question your own results... Start you own thread; or more so, your own forum. UGR may not be the ONLY tuner, but unless you've been wronged, you are just speculating that "The sky MAY be falling" . As far as I am concerned, unless you've been f'd and want to tell about it, you've got NO salt, for what is not even a wound:
Back to the topic, Nice numbers guys and I can understand why you would be so excited. From your results and experience, I'd gladly follow your advice/referral.
You know Ed, trying to get you to use common sense or obvious facts in forming your arguments is like trying to use semaphore to get a gorilla to stop throwing his poop. Jay has my deepest sympathies. You can take that finger of yours that you don't know what to do with, jam it in your ass and diddle your brain stem. That may in turn, stimulate a cogent thought or two you then could share with us. Until such time, go weld an x-pipe on DB's Lawnboy.
HAHAHA that is the best you can come up with. You are a bigger dumbfuck than I ever imagined. You argue with someone after they continuously correct with simple explanations that are still to hard for you to understand. Then you come at me with my inability to use common sense or obvious facts. You just graded yourself. I would not have said a word had you not been to stupid to understand what was being said. But that would have required you admitting you were wrong about something. You would rath............. oh fuck it you are to stupid to understand. I hope to meet you someday so I can see how an educated idiot walks and talks at the same time.
Quoted for NoMa'am per his post 221 (quoted below) because I agreed with the post about the 900 number not having to be set in stone.
So you see my friend, the "thought" was already planted....not by me but by someone else. Why did you not chastise him if it is such a sin ? ARE YOU saying if it were to make 895 that it is a failure on that particular car ? Because that's sure not what I'm saying.....however, I'm sure you will try to twist it around.
Edit: Now I see, VIPERRACING is a customer of UGR so it's ok for him to say it but not for me to agree.
Context is everything Sky King. If that had been all you said, I would not have commented. However, your entire initial post in this thread was framed around your theory that Kevin still has to prove he can make 900rwhp on a otherwise stock motor because you chose not to look back on the "can do's" of the car that already accomplished those numbers.
Each element of your post contained a snippy reference to this disregarding of the past accomplishment with at least some doubt about what he can still do. You had a clear opportunity to disagree with the bullshit DB was advancing and you didn't even mention it.
I have no idea who VIPERRACING is and therefore have no context in which to evaluate his brief comment. You on the other hand are someone I have admired in your accomplishments with the Roe system and your overall prowess with drag racing. I would not hesitate to recommend you to someone looking for work on their Viper as I have in the past. This being the case, I hold you to a higher standard than someone I know nothing about and have been frustrated to see you recently sliding toward participation with a band of hooligans who spray sewage on virtually every thread in which UR or their products are mentioned. As you are now a direct competitor with UR, it is my opinion you should be more careful when commenting on their products to avoid even the appearance of a conflict of interest.
You would also impress me as the Tony I thought I knew if you would find it compelling to comment in the adverse when crazy allegations that you know are bullshit get posted about UR as recently happened. There is far to much acrimony in the Viper community between some of the tuners and I had hopes you would be one of the leaders in bridging those divides.
Be reminded that this is my opinion only and you are obviously free to disregard it in it's totality. No Ma'am
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HAHAHA that is the best you can come up with. You are a bigger dumbfuck than I ever imagined. You argue with someone after they continuously correct with simple explanations that are still to hard for you to understand. Then you come at me with my inability to use common sense or obvious facts. You just graded yourself. I would not have said a word had you not been to stupid to understand what was being said. But that would have required you admitting you were wrong about something. You would rath............. oh fuck it you are to stupid to understand. I hope to meet you someday so I can see how an educated idiot walks and talks at the same time.
The gorilla and poop analogy = Priceless
That's not all I got but it was what I was willing to devote to someone with the intellect of a South Chicago mud snail. I know you have a hard time "intrepiding" things people say, as you say it, and I was trying to be kind. You have achieved Jay's "Nothing Short Of Supporting Kevin Award" in a thread where you have managed to tell us Kevin has a large ego, you don't like him, and you have no respect for him. For that discombobulated torturous crime against all the laws of logic and nature, you are hereby awarded the following rating by the Concerned Citizens Against Butchered Double Wide Paneled Wall Trailer Park Speak................
Wait, you have a vested interest in seeing CPE succeed? I assume this is a monetary interest? Care to explain? I know Ed welds a ton of shit for Paolo but I wasn't aware what you specific role was with CPE.
Actually, I'm quite happy at this point. I love pictures with license plate numbers clearly identified. It makes it much easier to identify cars in parking lots.
900rwhp is a nice build! What I don't get is how you needed to have head work done if BlownGTS's car was capable of making 900+rwhp without head work. And the promise from the original 'offer' of UGR was 900rwhp w/o head work.
I guess we'll never know b/c all of the blower cars that went in to have that 'deal' done had head work done!
As for you being a dick, you've proven it to the world. And memorialized it for your child. Why would I disagree with you?
Speaking of, I hope you don't drive around with a car seat in the car b/c I'd hate for two people to die in a fiery crash. One is fine, though. Solid red is the ugliest car combination there is. It is truly the 'my penis is too small, so look at me!' car color.
14 pages-I am NOT going to read this thread. Can someone give me the Cliff Notes Edition?
Sean and Josh got their cars back from UGR..
It rained...
It was nice...
They went for a drive...
cars are fast...
lack of filters pointed out...
some skeptics questioned some things...
poo slinging commenced..
sides were taken...
more poo slinging...
the most questioned AE of all time is born...
thread died...
a million other threads are a spun off from this one...
dun4791 rattled the cage...
Josh and JD still hate each other...
Spray wants to know who fucking cares anymore...
Sean and Josh got their cars back from UGR..
It rained...
It was nice...
They went for a drive...
cars are fast...
lack of filters pointed out...
some skeptics questioned some things...
poo slinging commenced..
sides were taken...
more poo slinging...
the most questioned AE of all time is born...
thread died...
a million other threads are a spun off from this one...
dun4791 rattled the cage...
Josh and JD still hate each other...
Spray wants to know who fucking cares anymore...
Sean and Josh got their cars back from UGR..
It rained...
It was nice...
They went for a drive...
cars are fast...
lack of filters pointed out...
some skeptics questioned some things...
poo slinging commenced..
sides were taken...
more poo slinging...
the most questioned AE of all time is born...
thread died...
a million other threads are a spun off from this one...
dun4791 rattled the cage...
Josh and JD still hate each other...
Spray wants to know who fucking cares anymore...
ding, ding....round two.
I didn't know Cliff himself was a member of the forum....thanks!
. As far as I am concerned, unless you've been f'd and want to tell about it, you've got NO salt, for what is not even a wound: 
