At this point aren't you only really arguing with one person ? Sure there are probably other skeptics not posting but I think 99% don't care.
The main point here (IMO) is that UGR hasn't done one of the exact "packages" yet.
That is a good point about your intake and especially the lack of headers for all the guesstimators. Just how much are the heads helping right now.
I don't really look back to BlownGTS for any "can or can't do's" but I do look forward to the basic package being done and then dyno'd once the car is back with the owner for the masses to see. Would I bet against it ? Hell no, but it does need to be proven down the road.
875whp ... 915whp ??? Does it really matter from car to car ? Does it matter in regard to the advertised package ? That's for the person shelling out the cash to decide.
"The main point here (IMO) is that UGR hasn't done one of the exact "packages" yet. " Is this where you are chastising DB for his unfounded assumptions? That was a scathing dress down for sure.
"I don't really look back to BlownGTS for any "can or can't do's" but I do look forward to the basic package being done and then dyno'd once the car is back with the owner for the masses to see. Would I bet against it ? Hell no, but it does need to be proven down the road. " Is this where you are saying Blown GTS is a bad ass ride or are you saying that the 900rwhp stock Paxton build still needs to be proven?
"875whp ... 915whp ??? Does it really matter from car to car ? Does it matter in regard to the advertised package ? That's for the person shelling out the cash to decide." Is this where you plant the thought that the stock package might only make 875rwhp but the buyer is the one to decide if that matters? Why even mention that the package might only make 875rwhp when one hasn't even been finished yet?
At this point aren't you only really arguing with one person ? Sure there are probably other skeptics not posting but I think 99% don't care.
The main point here (IMO) is that UGR hasn't done one of the exact "packages" yet.
That is a good point about your intake and especially the lack of headers for all the guesstimators. Just how much are the heads helping right now.
I don't really look back to BlownGTS for any "can or can't do's" but I do look forward to the basic package being done and then dyno'd once the car is back with the owner for the masses to see. Would I bet against it ? Hell no, but it does need to be proven down the road.
875whp ... 915whp ??? Does it really matter from car to car ? Does it matter in regard to the advertised package ? That's for the person shelling out the cash to decide.
Looks like I had a premonition of a second person and POOF, looks like I was right. The bottom line is "people" here don't believe blowngts was legit. Even if UGR produces a BASE package and it hits the 900 mark, none of the NON-Believers are going to be sueded to the side of the righteous and that is the sad fact. BUT, I couldn't care less, either should Kevin. The guys shop is packed with more vipers then you could imagine. All with customers waiting for bullshit numbers and shoddy craftsmanship.
HOLY SHIT. Guys chill out. I just dropped off my car to kevin and its a bone stock 98 with just a mopar exhaust on it. We will see very shortly what the #'s really are. I have started a new thread and will keep everone posted over there. So for the mean time why dont everyone just chill out until we see what they can make with my car.
HOLY SHIT. Guys chill out. I just dropped off my car to kevin and its a bone stock 98 with just a mopar exhaust on it. We will see very shortly what the #'s really are. I have started a new thread and will keep everone posted over there. So for the mean time why dont everyone just chill out until we see what they can make with my car.
Correct me if I am incorrect but aren't you going with a spilt sec? Or did you decide on an aem?
Looks like I had a premonition of a second person and POOF, looks like I was right. The bottom line is "people" here don't believe blowngts was legit. Even if UGR produces a BASE package and it hits the 900 mark, none of the NON-Believers are going to be sueded to the side of the righteous and that is the sad fact. BUT, I couldn't care less, either should Kevin. The guys shop is packed with more vipers then you could imagine. All with customers waiting for bullshit numbers and shoddy craftsmanship.
Sorry, but for a clearer understanding I'll do a few corrections here;
[quote=No Man;961608]"The main point here (IMO) is that UGR hasn't done one of the exact "packages" yet. " Is this where you are chastising DB for his unfounded assumptions? That was a scathing dress down for sure.
"I don't really look back to BlownGTS for any "can or can't do's" but I do look forward to the basic package being done and then dyno'd once the car is back with the owner for the masses to see. Would I bet against it ? Hell no, but it does need to be proven down the road. " Is this where you are saying Blown GTS is a bad ass ride or are you saying that the 900rwhp stock Paxton build still needs to be proven?
"875whp ... 915whp ??? Does it really matter from car to car ? Does it matter in regard to the advertised package ? That's for the person shelling out the cash to decide." Is this where you plant the thought that the stock package might only make 875rwhp but the buyer is the one to decide if that matters? Why even mention that the package might only make 875rwhp when one hasn't even been finished yet?[/QUOTE
You have really scraped the bottom of the barrel in the way you have turned Tony's words around. To be honest I thought Tony was in UGR's corner on his very first post, then made it abundantly clear on his second, third and however many other posts trying to explain to you what he said. For someone who is very fluent in the english language your comprehension is lacking. You are obviously a smart person, but seriously Tony is NOT bashing UGR.
Hey, Josh! I heard you got your car back and it made 920 rwhp on a pretty conservative, pump gas tune with a mild street pulley and a set of moderately ported factory heads.
"The main point here (IMO) is that UGR hasn't done one of the exact "packages" yet. " Is this where you are chastising DB for his unfounded assumptions? That was a scathing dress down for sure.
"I don't really look back to BlownGTS for any "can or can't do's" but I do look forward to the basic package being done and then dyno'd once the car is back with the owner for the masses to see. Would I bet against it ? Hell no, but it does need to be proven down the road. " Is this where you are saying Blown GTS is a bad ass ride or are you saying that the 900rwhp stock Paxton build still needs to be proven?
"875whp ... 915whp ??? Does it really matter from car to car ? Does it matter in regard to the advertised package ? That's for the person shelling out the cash to decide." Is this where you plant the thought that the stock package might only make 875rwhp but the buyer is the one to decide if that matters? Why even mention that the package might only make 875rwhp when one hasn't even been finished yet?[/QUOTE
You have really scraped the bottom of the barrel in the way you have turned Tony's words around. To be honest I thought Tony was in UGR's corner on his very first post, then made it abundantly clear on his second, third and however many other posts trying to explain to you what he said. For someone who is very fluent in the english language your comprehension is lacking. You are obviously a smart person, but seriously Tony is NOT bashing UGR.
I'll give you an example even you can understand Ed. I'm going to complement Tony here using his own methodology.
"Tony I don't care if you used nitrous on your blower only record Roe run, I really think you are a great driver and that was one hell of a pass."
Do you think Tony will see that as a complement? One more question Ed, what do you think of this DB character and the points he has made on this thread? Do you know DB or not?
Sorry, but for a clearer understanding I'll do a few corrections here;
"sued" = swayed
"righteous" meaning UGR customers and supporters?
"The guys shop ..." meaning 1tony1, not UGR
... did I get that right?
Ted
Ted, maybe you can start your own thread discussing the 720rwhp you mention in almost every one of your fucking posts. A number that I believe you never saw, but in fact, one that you inherited from the previous owner of your car. You are a dipshit sir. Did I get that right? Oh and since I am sure neg rep doesn't bother a guy like you, enjoy the 17, -17 of course.
Thanks, I'll put those ones with the -65 you gave me before. I didn't realize that YOU were the only one that could make corrections - at least I didn't comment on you penis size or education, eh?
I corrected your post , for you, because it read like you may have been putting UGR down, and I didn't think you want anyone to think that, sorry.
Hey, maybe I'll be back to -65 like the first few times I was helpful, without cursing and thousands of personal insults?
Thanks, I'll put those ones with the -65 you gave me before. I didn't realize that YOU were the only one that could make corrections - at least I didn't comment on you penis size or education, eh?
I corrected your post , for you, because it read like you may have been putting UGR down, and I didn't think you want anyone to think that, sorry.
Hey, maybe I'll be back to -65 like the first few times I was helpful, without cursing and thousands of personal insults?
I'll give you an example even you can understand Ed. I'm going to complement Tony here using his own methodology.
"Tony I don't care if you used nitrous on your blower only record Roe run, I really think you are a great driver and that was one hell of a pass."
Do you think Tony will see that as a complement? One more question Ed, what do you think of this DB character and the points he has made on this thread? Do you know DB or not?
I really do not know how Tony would intrepid what you wrote nor do I care. But if he did not take it the way you intended and you explained yourself to him multiple times my guess is he would not continue to argue with you about it and try to spin it to make you look bad.
Do I know DB? No. Have I ever met DB? No. Would I like meet DB? Don't really care one way or another. Although he appears to not be in UGR's corner yet I still have hope for him.
To be real honest with you this whole thread is just stupid. It started out ok then took a nose dive when it got sidetracked. Is that a shame? yes. People should be able to start a thread and not have to wonder how long it will take to get hijacked. I also think that the majority of this thread should be being discussed in its own separate thread.
One more thing. If I were Kevin at UGR my chest would hurt from pounding on it myself. He has so many mouth pieces here it is un-fuckin-believable. He has to be proud that he has so many people that can talk for him. Its no wonder his ego is so big. No offence Kevin just stating that facts.
Do I know DB? No. Have I ever met DB? No. Would I like meet DB? Don't really care one way or another. Although he appears to not be in UGR's corner yet I still have hope for him.
To be real honest with you this whole thread is just stupid.
If I were Kevin at UGR my chest would hurt from pounding on it myself.
Its no wonder his ego is so big. No offence Kevin just stating that facts.
Is it possible for anyone in the CPE camp NOT to insult UGR at every opportunity?
When the whole JID thread started, it was like an immediate polarization of the site. You could tell EXACTLY who supported who.
There were the people who supported UGR's business decision, those who didn't, and those who just kept their mouths shut.
Of those people who supported UGR's decision, some were UGR customers and some were simply bystanders who understand good business.
However, it certainly appeared that the only people who didn't support UGR's decision were the CPE camp. The same people who always drop trou and try to take a steaming dump on every UGR thread.
It's a game we all laugh about behind your backs. We just wait to see which of the CPE camp will post first, second, third. I can always count on V4C, SVT00dubs, car24, and a few AE's to throw their two cents in against UGR. You guys are so predictable its laughable.
Why don't you guys give Josh and Sean a break? They just got their cars back, they are excited about the results, and a few of you vultures just can't stand the thought of a guy being happy with his UGR car.
If you want to try to shit on UGR, start your own thread. Then someone can start a corresponding thread about who feels like you really get 900 rwhp with a $9999 CPE kit. That way you don't fuck up a thread by a happy customer. Remind me to drop by your houses when it's your kids' birthday, so I can piss on their cake and smash their presents.
