Something to think about guys. No matter what Kevin does regarding this retarded issue of a car not making 900 rwhp on a stock "everything" simply because no body opt to go that route yet I will say this. The ONLY reason why you insinuate it cant be done is because other than BlownGTS myself and snor opted for heads while at UGR? If you are assuming we wanted the heads to clear the 900 hurdle you are a fucking moron, period. I wanted heads to run a more efficient setup and to have it done now rather than worry about looking to do it 6 months or a year down the line and looking at the transportation costs and re-tuning that would follow. The heads actually should not be doing all that much when you think about the fact that my intake is not honed at all and I am running cast manifolds. At this point in my setup I have both an intake restriction and a header restriction. Down the line I may hone the intake or have a gen3 version slapped on it and may add headers as well but I am please where it is now. Sorry you are not. Maybe I can refund the portion of the money you invested in my build so your not upset any longer. (sarcastic sigh). Remember this folks, had Snor and I decided NOT to tell you what was done and never admitted to heads, would you ever have been the wiser? Bottomline is even if Kevin did a totally stock car like a customer wanted and pulled 900+ like advertised you still would be crying foul. (This post is not generally directed to any one person but more to the haters clearly too vocal in this thread about a couple awesome cars built by a great shop and delivered to a couple VERY satisfied customers. Move along.
Something to think about guys. No matter what Kevin does regarding this retarded issue of a car not making 900 rwhp on a stock "everything" simply because no body opt to go that route yet
At this point aren't you only really arguing with one person ? Sure there are probably other skeptics not posting but I think 99% don't care.
The main point here (IMO) is that UGR hasn't done one of the exact "packages" yet.
That is a good point about your intake and especially the lack of headers for all the guesstimators. Just how much are the heads helping right now.
I don't really look back to BlownGTS for any "can or can't do's" but I do look forward to the basic package being done and then dyno'd once the car is back with the owner for the masses to see. Would I bet against it ? Hell no, but it does need to be proven down the road.
875whp ... 915whp ??? Does it really matter from car to car ? Does it matter in regard to the advertised package ? That's for the person shelling out the cash to decide.
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The main point here (IMO) is that UGR hasn't done one of the exact "packages" yet.
I don't really look back to BlownGTS for any "can or can't do's" but I do look forward to the basic package being done and then dyno'd once the car is back with the owner for the masses to see. Would I bet against it ? Hell no, but it does need to be proven down the road.
The main point here was insinuating that the package couldn't make the power without the heads and other mods. This was a premature attempt to make a point since that configuration has not yet been ordered. It was also used to infer that the advertised package was misleading. There is zero evidence of that at this time.
If you are going to disregard the can do's of the Blown GTS car, you need to delete most of your signature because the car that accomplished all those great numbers doesn't exist anymore either.
The main point here was insinuating that the package couldn't make the power without the heads and other mods. This was a premature attempt to make a point since that configuration has not yet been ordered. It was also used to infer that the advertised package was misleading. There is zero evidence of that at this time.
If you are going to disregard the can do's of the Blown GTS car, you need to delete most of your signature because the car that accomplished all those great numbers doesn't exist anymore either.
On your first point...isn't that the same thing I just said ??
On your second point, the car does exist, the parts exist etc. and really has no bearing in this discussion however if you feel perky then put your money where your mouth is.
My point, if you try to look around UGR's nuts* is that it's a different set-up and was what...3 or 4 years ago. The new "package" has better parts, more knowledge etc. etc. In theory it should even make more power.
* That you and others are so blind as to what people say that you always try to turn it around against UGR is sad and actually is a disservice to UGR.
On your first point...isn't that the same thing I just said ??
On your second point, the car does exist, the parts exist etc. and really has no bearing in this discussion however if you feel perky then put your money where your mouth is.
My point, if you try to look around UGR's nuts* is that it's a different set-up and was what...3 or 4 years ago. The new "package" has better parts, more knowledge etc. etc. In theory it should even make more power.
* That you and others are so blind as to what people say that you always try to turn it around against UGR is sad and actually is a disservice to UGR.
Point one.... No it's not and you know it isn't. If your contention were to be correct Douchebaggery could have simply stated,"Why have no advertised packages been build to date?"
On your second point, I don't disregard the can do's of the Blown GTS car OR your car. I was referring to YOUR dismissal of the Blown cars can do's. And for you to infer that there was nothing adverse to UGR in this thread doesn't do your own credibility other than a disservice.
You are now a direct competitor to UGR and can't seem to prevent yourself from side handed shitting in ever thread their name comes up in.
Point one.... No it's not and you know it isn't. If your contention were to be correct Douchebaggery could have simply stated,"Why have no advertised packages been build to date?"
On your second point, I don't disregard the can do's of the Blown GTS car OR your car. I was referring to YOUR dismissal of the Blown cars can do's. And for you to infer that there was nothing adverse to UGR in this thread doesn't do your own credibility other than a disservice.
You are now a direct competitor to UGR and can't seem to prevent yourself from side handed shitting in ever thread their name comes up in.
Well, it wasn't intended that way and wasn't meant that way and you are full of shit thinking that I am "against" UGR.
I don't even consider myself a competitor. I work on Vipers for enjoyment....I don't have time except to do the occasional car....that is no secret, the other businesses take presidence and that is no secret to anyone here as far as I know.
Kevin said the same thing a few days back...that no one has wanted the basic package. If my search would work I would point that out.
If any neutral party looks at my post they would read it as actually taking up for UGR. That IMO shows that you are blinded so much you try to turn it around. Why ?? I don't understand.
1. I'm saying UGR can probably produce on the package.
2. I'm saying no one has a right comparing these two cars against the basic package just because they have heads and by doing so saying the basic package doesn't produce.
3. How is that against UGR ?
3.55's, street tune, UGR Paxton setup with JM heads and B&B headers...
Car now has 3.07's, and would likely pick up 3-4% on the dyno.
I'm happy with the results and the car will be at the track in the next few months.
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