The way it sound to me is UGR dictated to Proline that the only Viper engines that can be built in Proline's shop is the ones UGR delivers to them. No other outside work. If this is the case, UGR is dictating to Proline who they can accept as customers. That said, if true, is complete BS.
I'll take "What is the definition of an exclusive contract for $600" Alex.............
I may be the "other" person and you may be 50% right, but your method and story suck.
My method. I wa the one drug into this Tony. Joe started this clusterfuck of a thread and tossed accusations left and right. I repeated what I was told. I am correct in who the "other" person was but if the other portion was skewed, feel free to correct me. No name calling, my issues are with your buddy JID.
Dave, remember the nice guy that picked up that motor and shipped it to you
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Let's all watch Kevin's blood pressure rise when I say the letters C.P.E.
oh no!!!
competition!
I don't have a dog in this fight, but I live 100 miles from UG. I've gone down there probably half a dozen times in the past 6 months. I don't think I've been there when there were less than 20 cars at his shop. I don't think he's worried to much about any other tuner out there. Judging by the defense his past customers are giving him, he doesn't need to.
This fucking takes the cake. You have a bunch of fucking internet nutswingers that don't know dick chiming in. To all the "more money than brains" crowd chiming in here - lots of money to spend doesn't actually mean you know SHIT about what is being discussed here. STFU. There is zero fucking r and d here numb nuts. You fucking internet dumbass' crack me up. Its a goddaman pushrod engine. Bore , balance, stroke, o-ring the block? You think there is something that complicated in what is being done? You know Proline sends their stroker cranks out and it costs $250 to get done? Ping me if you want to know where they send it to. I'll be only too happy to share.
There is HUGE markup (VIPERTAX) for any engine work done this route now.
UGR didn't create Proline or have anything to do with it guys - get a grip. They've been around some time. Proline didn't mind doing work when they needed the cash either.
I dont know who i'm more dissappointed in - Proline or UGR. Sleazy....
My method. I wa the one drug into this Tony. Joe started this clusterfuck of a thread and tossed accusations left and right. I repeated what I was told. I am correct in who the "other" person was but if the other portion was skewed, feel free to correct me. No name calling, my issues are with your buddy JID.
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I was told you and the "other" person aka Tony A. were the ones that brought it there in an effort to be a weasel cockbag and circumvent Kevins exclusivity with Proline.
No name calling ? You need to read the quote above. Anybody reading that assumes you called me and Joseph out. Your informant is wrong about me AND your story is misleading about Joseph.
I have had several folks tell me how you are involved in this....am I dragging you thru the mud ? No, I'm staying out because I don't have first hand knowledge and know when to keep my mouth shut.
You had no need or good reason to even bring me into this did you ? If so I sure want to hear it.
This fucking takes the cake. You have a bunch of fucking internet nutswingers that don't know dick chiming in. To all the "more money than brains" crowd chiming in here - lots of money to spend doesn't actually mean you know SHIT about what is being discussed here. STFU. There is zero fucking r and d here numb nuts. You fucking internet dumbass' crack me up. Its a goddaman pushrod engine. Bore , balance, stroke, o-ring the block? You think there is something that complicated in what is being done? You know Proline sends their stroker cranks out and it costs $250 to get done? Ping me if you want to know where they send it to. I'll be only too happy to share.
There is HUGE markup (VIPERTAX) for any engine work done this route now.
UGR didn't create Proline or have anything to do with it guys - get a grip. They've been around some time. Proline didn't mind doing work when they needed the cash either.
I dont know who i'm more dissappointed in - Proline or UGR. Sleazy....
This fucking takes the cake. You have a bunch of fucking internet nutswingers that don't know dick chiming in. To all the "more money than brains" crowd chiming in here - lots of money to spend doesn't actually mean you know SHIT about what is being discussed here. STFU. There is zero fucking r and d here numb nuts. You fucking internet dumbass' crack me up. Its a goddaman pushrod engine. Bore , balance, stroke, o-ring the block? You think there is something that complicated in what is being done? You know Proline sends their stroker cranks out and it costs $250 to get done? Ping me if you want to know where they send it to. I'll be only too happy to share.
There is HUGE markup (VIPERTAX) for any engine work done this route now.
UGR didn't create Proline or have anything to do with it guys - get a grip. They've been around some time. Proline didn't mind doing work when they needed the cash either.
I dont know who i'm more dissappointed in - Proline or UGR. Sleazy....
I don't want to stick my nose in here other than to say I wouldn't be angry at Proline....if a huge customer requests that they not work on one guy's 3k dollar project, I can't blame them.
I don't want to stick my nose in here other than to say I wouldn't be angry at Proline....if a huge customer requests that they not work on one guy's 3k dollar project, I can't blame them.
Thanks !!!! We all were on pins and needles about your opinion
I wonder what the legal ramifications are when a firm accepts a block for work then waffles after sitting on it for some period of time? Especially when it is because they are being strongarmed by a third party.
I wonder what the legal ramifications are when a firm accepts a block for work then waffles after sitting on it for some period of time? Especially when it is because they are being strongarmed by a third party.
This fucking takes the cake. You have a bunch of fucking internet nutswingers that don't know dick chiming in. To all the "more money than brains" crowd chiming in here - lots of money to spend doesn't actually mean you know SHIT about what is being discussed here. STFU. There is zero fucking r and d here numb nuts. You fucking internet dumbass' crack me up. Its a goddaman pushrod engine. Bore , balance, stroke, o-ring the block? You think there is something that complicated in what is being done? You know Proline sends their stroker cranks out and it costs $250 to get done? Ping me if you want to know where they send it to. I'll be only too happy to share.
There is HUGE markup (VIPERTAX) for any engine work done this route now.
UGR didn't create Proline or have anything to do with it guys - get a grip. They've been around some time. Proline didn't mind doing work when they needed the cash either.
I dont know who i'm more dissappointed in - Proline or UGR. Sleazy....
Ok fuck stick, if it is so easy to do why is joe so butt hurt then? Why not just take it somewhere else?
Ok fuck stick, if it is so easy to do why is joe so butt hurt then? Why not just take it somewhere else?
Nuttswinger - I don't blame him for exposing what is being done. Why hide in the shadows if your proud of your business practices? I don't know now many motors JID has had built over there only be shafted now after they've been sitting on THIS motor for some time?
This fucking takes the cake. You have a bunch of fucking internet nutswingers that don't know dick chiming in. To all the "more money than brains" crowd chiming in here - lots of money to spend doesn't actually mean you know SHIT about what is being discussed here. STFU. There is zero fucking r and d here numb nuts. You fucking internet dumbass' crack me up. Its a goddaman pushrod engine. Bore , balance, stroke, o-ring the block? You think there is something that complicated in what is being done? You know Proline sends their stroker cranks out and it costs $250 to get done? Ping me if you want to know where they send it to. I'll be only too happy to share.
There is HUGE markup (VIPERTAX) for any engine work done this route now.
UGR didn't create Proline or have anything to do with it guys - get a grip. They've been around some time. Proline didn't mind doing work when they needed the cash either.
I dont know who i'm more dissappointed in - Proline or UGR. Sleazy....
Bigred, please read my explanation and not Joe's. My markup on short blocks is 20%. I also provide a two year warranty. Joe's representation is false and well wide of the truth as usual.
That sucks for you JID. Thanks for adding some drama to the boards, it has been boring around here lately with all the newbs, although the Christian/Muslim/Jew thread has been both informational and interesting. Kevin has an exclusive deal with that company, exercised his option, and you didn't get your shit done.
I seriously doubt that he is worried about competition, he sounds like he has been around awhile, be it Mustangs or Vipers, and has been successful. Haven't heard any negative comments about him from his customers or of any lawsuits.
As far as his pricing, that's business, his customers are willing to pay his price, otherwise they take their business elsewhere.
As Kevin posted, he has an exclusive contract, he doesn't like you and told them to get your motor out, as is his right per the contract.
