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Old December 28th, 2007, 11:25 AM   #1
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Viper GTS vs Porsche Turbo

Ok I have to ask this:

Pro's and Con's of the 1997 Viper GTS and 1992-2002 Porsche Turbo and 1997 Ferrari 456 GTA <<<Just threw this one in the mix.

I am having a hard time making up my mind.


Also, why is it that the 1997 Viper GTS is the most modifiable VIPER? Is this true? It is because of the cast iron engine components?
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Old December 28th, 2007, 11:34 AM   #2
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Yes, it is because of the cast iron rods and pistons. And the sleeves are fluorocarbon coated at the factory.
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Depends on what year porsche turbo you are talking about. Straight line acceleration should be close with an edge going to the GTS. Handling and braking would be better on the porche turbo especially if it's AWD. The '97 GTS viper is a more desirable viper because it was one of the most attractive viper's (better looking than 1st gen 92-95) and came with forged internals capable of withstanding larger amounts of nitrous or larger amount of boost because of the forged internals which the viper was equiped with from '92-'99 . With the proche turbo, you are limited to your displacement but you can mess with the boost. With the GTS there are more options to get more power and the viper tends to produce a better yield in horsepower mod for mod.
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They are almost completely different kinds of cars and I am only guessing, but it appears that you are comparing these models and years based on your budget, not what car will best fit your personal tastes, driving style and use (daily driver, weekend car, track car, etc.). Only you can determine which car is best, based on your passion triggers. Go drive both and determine for yourself which is best ....that would be my advice.

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Yes, it is because of the cast iron rods and pistons. And the sleeves are fluorocarbon coated at the factory.
Don't forget the impact-absorbing lead connecting rods and brass camshaft.
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I am comparing them according to their cost and also looks and performance. I will probably end up going with the Viper, but I just want to make sure I get more info before I dump $45K+ into something that I will drive on the weekend or just for fun. Not a daily driver. The hard part is, I will have the funds late next yr so no one is going to just let me test drive the Viper, Porsche or Ferrari.

I might also add, it would be nice to have something that is highly modifiable and does not cost millions of dollars to do so. I know for a fact the Ferrari will be extremely expensive to modify.
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I just did a supercharger on my Viper and is costed me $247,000.
A Viper might not be the car for you.
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How the hell did you spend that much on a supercharger? I see superchargers around $8K most notably the ROE Supercharger... Now if you twin turbo it by Heffner or Hennessey the whole car would be worth $247K. Correct me if I am wrong...
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Don't get the Ferrari....the 456 was a shit box. It is also SSSSLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOWWWW


As far as the Viper vs P-car. You'd better hope it is a Turbo or the Viper will chew it up and spit it so bad it wouldn't even be funny.


The Viper is a brute, The P-car is a dancer. You pick.

Take the time to turbo a Viper and 1,000hp is childs play these days. A P-car is NOT going to make that kind of power without a LOT of work.

My N/A ACR just ran a 11.1@131 (with a crappy 1.8 60ft time) with not much more than heads, exhaust, rockers. I've also put down 565rwhp 610rwtq. Is this power realiable?

Damn right it is. The day I made that pass, I drove 200 miles, made 31 passes, then I drove 200 miles home. I think the car proved it's self that day.

The Viper is a good place to start a build. It's got great bones. It just needs to loose some of the junky factory parts and it really is (IMHO) the best sports car in the world. The Viper has it all.
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How the hell did you spend that much on a supercharger? I see superchargers around $8K most notably the ROE Supercharger... Now if you twin turbo it by Heffner or Hennessey the whole car would be worth $247K. Correct me if I am wrong...


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Yes, it is because of the cast iron rods and pistons. And the sleeves are fluorocarbon coated at the factory.

Now if you twin turbo it either by Hennessey or Heffner don't all those components get replaced so then you could actually go with a newer year and be ok?
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omore001, please learn how to spell Porsche... you're killin' me
If you would have bothered to read my post, I only wrote Porsche incorrectly once. Now why don't you stop concentrating so hard on my grammar and start focusing more on much more important things in life such as getting pussy. If my grammar is killing you then your lack of desire towards the opposite sex is causing a massacre.
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Now if you twin turbo it either by Hennessey or Heffner don't all those components get replaced so then you could actually go with a newer year and be ok?
That's correct. They both take out the cast aluminum rods and pistons in the 2000 MY and later engines and install the cast iron upgrades. Sure, it's a little heavier rotating mass, but the twin turbos compensate just fine.
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my 04 996tt pcar was by far the best sports car I have owned. overall it is the complete package. quick in stock form and fast with a few mods. the most comfortable sports car i have owned and probably the best daily driver
Completely true, the 911 has survived 40 plus years and has improved on itself time and time again. I love my Viper, I do, it is a monster to drive and there is nothing like it. For daily driving, the 911 is hard to beat for it's reliability although parts for it when they do fail are a "SUM BITCH" to belly up for. I really enjoyed the two that I had (911's) and they corner like they are on rails as well. It really boils down to what you want and how you intend to use it. Good luck.
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That's correct. They both take out the cast aluminum rods and pistons in the 2000 MY and later engines and install the cast iron upgrades. Sure, it's a little heavier rotating mass, but the twin turbos compensate just fine.
So if you plan on twin turbo for a Viper then getting a 1998-1999 would be smarter because it is considerably more cheap than a 1997 Viper since you would be removing most of the factory stuff out anyway like the cast iron pistons etc... would be removed for twin turbo anyway.
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Let me put it this way.... Does it matter why year I get since I plan on Twin Turbo? They will replace most of the factory components anyway...
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Depends on what year porsche turbo you are talking about. Straight line acceleration should be close with an edge going to the GTS. Handling and braking would be better on the porche turbo especially if it's AWD. The '97 GTS viper is a more desirable viper because it was one of the most attractive viper's (better looking than 1st gen 92-95) and came with forged internals capable of withstanding larger amounts of nitrous or larger amount of boost because of the forged internals which the viper was equiped with from '92-'99 . With the proche turbo, you are limited to your displacement but you can mess with the boost. With the GTS there are more options to get more power and the viper tends to produce a better yield in horsepower mod for mod.
How can you even start making a comparison when the age range of the porsche spans something like three generations of the car? What do you mean the turbo has better handling "especially if it's AWD"? They were all AWD unless it was a GT2 in which case the GT2 handles better and is faster, just not as idiot proof. Anyway, before the 996, the cars tended to be a handfull with all of that weight sitting on the rear axle.
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