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Old December 6th, 2007, 08:21 AM   #21
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Last I heard, it was Joseph's car and he can do whatever he damn well pleases. Also, last I heard, he was the only person who successfully has installed his own turbo system, assembled his own motor, and tuned his car to nearly 1600 RWHP. Whether he can drive the beast or not, he deserves quite a bit of respect and admiration. What have you done to your car lately? At least Andy actually tried....probably got a lot further than you would have, Josh.
PFR, let us get something straight here. Is this TT kit not advertised as DIY kit? Please clarify more for me as I was certain that is the way CPE designed it. To be installed by the owner.
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Last I heard, it was Joseph's car and he can do whatever he damn well pleases. Also, last I heard, he was the only person who successfully has installed his own turbo system, assembled his own motor, and tuned his car to nearly 1600 RWHP. Whether he can drive the beast or not, he deserves quite a bit of respect and admiration. What have you done to your car lately? At least Andy actually tried....probably got a lot further than you would have, Josh.
Oh, and let us not forget this very statement you make. It has all the relevance in the world as to why I truely believe JID can drive off a cliff. (once his car is running again that is...)Does this not apply to others? Maybe before you toss your gloves into the ring a little past history between the 2 of us will show just how one sided this statement reads to me.
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PFR, let us get something straight here. Is this TT kit not advertised as DIY kit? Please clarify more for me as I was certain that is the way CPE designed it. To be installed by the owner.
Well, two people have installed one of these systems by themselves. Not 100% sure what the status is on Carl's build, but I am pretty sure he doesn't have it running yet. That makes Joseph the only person to have installed the front mount by themself--proving it can be done. I have done work with the system and can tell you that it isn't an easy install. Its straight forward, but a lot of work and a lot of attention to detail. I give Mr. Dell props for pulling it off.
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Oh, and let us not forget this very statement you make. It has all the relevance in the world as to why I truely believe JID can drive off a cliff. (once his car is running again that is...)Does this not apply to others? Maybe before you toss your gloves into the ring a little past history between the 2 of us will show just how one sided this statement reads to me.
You speak of Joseph all the time like when he screws up, it is fucking a customer. Who cares if he breaks shit. He is doing it himself and really is into uncharted waters. Even though he is making similar power to some other cars, he is dealing with more torque than I have seen from any other dyno graphs...and consequently is likely to break things.
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Ok Joseph, here is the deal. rather then go point for point here and bore the masses by quoting your post let me tell you how it is (the way I see it anyway). You don't like Kevin for some unknown reason. I saw this because as a friend Kevin and I talk, ALOT. Occasionally your name comes up and it is usually in Kevins confusion of why YOU continue to belittle his company and his customers. I have listened to almost everyone of CPE's corner berate my decision to send my car to Kevin to go forward with a supercharger build rather then Paolo's DIY TT kit. Most of the jabs have been friendly ones like Greg Good telling me I have TT envy or something along those lines. I have gotten innocent jabs from Jay, Dubs, as well as Ed in regards to my choice. Let me repeat that again Joseph, MY CHOICE. The out from left field, curve ball, beamers to the ballsack always came from you. Perfect example is regarding the thread yesterday at the vca on the salvage history car that guy was selling. Out of nowhere and completely unprovoked you again took another jab at Kevin , my car, and my choice. I am supposed to respect your choices?

The only truly insulting thing you really mentioned was thinking I called to speak to Greg in reference to you. Greg knows why I called him and although your name did come up, I did not have any intention of "pumping" Greg for information. Whether you bring your car to Bradenton or not is really of zero interest of me. Greg and I had a subtle tit for tat with words online again, regarding my posts on the salvage history GTS thread and that is why I felt the need to speak to the man. Don't inflate your ego anymore then it seems to be in thinking it was indeed something it was not. Hopefully Greg realized from his conversations with me that again You were not the reason for my call. It really shouldn't be too difficult for you to figure where I got my info from but again if they wish to post it, that is on them. I did what I did because up to today, you have shown zero respect for MY decision to do what I want for MY OWN vehicle.

I am very happy for you that you have the time and desire to wrench on your own car. I love these cars as much as you do I'm sure, but would rather send it off to be worked on by professionals rather than risk learning through trial and error. That is the beauty of using someone like Kevin, or Heffner, or DLM etc. Sure they have blown engines, broke stuff, and know what works. Why would I want to step in many of the pitfalls these guys have learned to avoid. You wish to get your hands dirty, great. Respect my choice not to.

I am flying down to Fl Joseph and as I have said several times here am bringing my 3 year old boy along for the trip. He idolizes these cars. Otherwise I would absolutely have taken you up on the offer to drop by for a visit.

The bottom line in all of this is if you have an issue with Kevin or his shop why not take it up with him? Why the animosity towards his customers like me for doing what they want to do with their own money? I would like to take you up on that offer sometime and journey to the south for the meet and greet. Since you are not coming to Bradenton, when would you like to do this?
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You speak of Joseph all the time like when he screws up, it is fucking a customer. Who cares if he breaks shit. He is doing it himself and really is into uncharted waters. Even though he is making similar power to some other cars, he is dealing with more torque than I have seen from any other dyno graphs...and consequently is likely to break things.
PFR, I am respectfully asking you to keep this between Joseph and myself. I don't have anyone here writing on my behalf or Kevins for that matter so please, since it involves my and Dell, can we keep it that way?
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PFR, I am respectfully asking you to keep this between Joseph and myself. I don't have anyone here writing on my behalf or Kevins for that matter so please, since it involves my and Dell, can we keep it that way?
Fair enough...I have said my piece, and it lowers my stress level to not be involved. Plus, I have this Matlab programming assignment kicking my ass and I don't need distractions
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I have listened to almost everyone of CPE's corner berate my decision to send my car to Kevin to go forward with a supercharger build rather then Paolo's DIY TT kit. Most of the jabs have been friendly ones like Greg Good telling me I have TT envy or something along those lines. I have gotten innocent jabs from Jay, Dubs, as well as Ed in regards to my choice. Let me repeat that again Joseph, MY CHOICE.
I really don't like seeing my name or other CPE related people dragged into this situation of yours, Josh. I'm not sure what my innocent jab was or even when, but I keep things professional.

Always professional.

These tuners aren't necessarily here for fun, this is how they feed their families and keep a roof over their heads. That in itself commands respect. The fact that they enjoy what they do is a bonus.

Again, this isn't a CPE vs. UGR issue, this is a Josh vs. Joseph Dell issue.

Please sort it out between the two of you.

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I really don't like seeing my name or other CPE related people dragged into this situation of yours, Josh. I'm not sure what my innocent jab was or even when, but I keep things professional.

Always professional.

These tuners aren't necessarily here for fun, this is how they feed their families and keep a roof over their heads. That in itself commands respect. The fact that they enjoy what they do is a bonus.

Again, this isn't a CPE vs. UGR issue, this is a Josh vs. Joseph Dell issue.

Please sort it out between the two of you.

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Exactly what I am asking to do. The mud-slinging is done provided Joseph agrees.
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I really don't like seeing my name or other CPE related people dragged into this situation of yours, Josh. I'm not sure what my innocent jab was or even when, but I keep things professional.

Always professional.

These tuners aren't necessarily here for fun, this is how they feed their families and keep a roof over their heads. That in itself commands respect. The fact that they enjoy what they do is a bonus.

Again, this isn't a CPE vs. UGR issue, this is a Josh vs. Joseph Dell issue.

Please sort it out between the two of you.

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Actually, Jay, the only issue is that Josh is an Asshole. This isn't a tuner issue. This is a Josh-does-everything-he-can-to-bash-JID-whenever-he-feels-like-it. this isn't a CPE/UGR/anyone else issue. In fact, I could care less who his tuner selection is.

Which is why he's an asshole.

Josh - Are you reading this? I'm sure you are. You are an asshole! go away! If you want some 'resolution' then leave me out of your mid slinging! I never once dragged you into something yet you drag my name into as much mud slinging as you can!

I feel bad for his kid, though. When the kid gets older and does a search on the internet he'll see how much of an asshole dear ole' dad really was.

I have Josh on ignore. I've said what i'm going to say which is that he's an asshole and a waste of flesh. he hasn't called me to take me up on my offer and i don't expect him to. He hides behind the internet too much. *meow* *meow*.

Actually, I hope to meet him someday. I have an example to set for my daughter...

You won't see any more responses from me on this thread. Josh may want a confrontation but he'll have to get it in person. He's already p*ssied out once... i expect he'll continue to do so.

Actually, here is what Josh will do. First he'll call for a truce of some sort (because he won't admit he's made a mistake, is wrong, or is out of line). Then he'll claim that he's being wrongfully attacked after he tries to deflect attention to a tuner vs. tuner type of fight. Then, lastly, he'll HAVE to have the final word. He CANNOT go a thread without having the last word. So he'll continue to respond as long as people fuel the fire. Or until he realized that he's made a total ass of himself.

Again.

c'mon Josh... keep on playin'! I'm ignorin'!

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Actually, Jay, the only issue is that Josh is an Asshole. This isn't a tuner issue. This is a Josh-does-everything-he-can-to-bash-JID-whenever-he-feels-like-it. this isn't a CPE/UGR/anyone else issue. In fact, I could care less who his tuner selection is.

Which is why he's an asshole.

Josh - Are you reading this? I'm sure you are. You are an asshole! go away! If you want some 'resolution' then leave me out of your mid slinging! I never once dragged you into something yet you drag my name into as much mud slinging as you can!

I feel bad for his kid, though. When the kid gets older and does a search on the internet he'll see how much of an asshole dear ole' dad really was.

I have Josh on ignore. I've said what i'm going to say which is that he's an asshole and a waste of flesh. he hasn't called me to take me up on my offer and i don't expect him to. He hides behind the internet too much. *meow* *meow*.

Actually, I hope to meet him someday. I have an example to set for my daughter...

You won't see any more responses from me on this thread. Josh may want a confrontation but he'll have to get it in person. He's already p*ssied out once... i expect he'll continue to do so.

Actually, here is what Josh will do. First he'll call for a truce of some sort (because he won't admit he's made a mistake, is wrong, or is out of line). Then he'll claim that he's being wrongfully attacked after he tries to deflect attention to a tuner vs. tuner type of fight. Then, lastly, he'll HAVE to have the final word. He CANNOT go a thread without having the last word. So he'll continue to respond as long as people fuel the fire. Or until he realized that he's made a total ass of himself.

Again.

c'mon Josh... keep on playin'! I'm ignorin'!

idiot...

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Curious Joe but if you invite me down to GA are you going to open the door when I knock? Just asking because placing me on ignore (which we all know is bullshit) and your continued posting of insults is about the gayest one can get. Either IT is bothering you or it isn't? Care to get me that number now?
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Curious Joe but if you invite me down to GA are you going to open the door when I knock? Just asking because placing me on ignore (which we all know is bullshit) and your continued posting of insults is about the gayest one can get. Either IT is bothering you or it isn't? Care to get me that number now?
Truth is, Josh, I think he actually does have you on ignore, if I know Joseph. I know he has like 3 others on there too.
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No doubt I am on ignore. but no way he isn't reading this. That was my bullshit point.
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