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Old November 15th, 2007, 05:01 PM   #1
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SVS headers vs Belanger

Any ideas? I have a friend who has a set of used SVS headers for sale off his GTS. I was thinking about putting some Belangers on my Gen II ACR but these are going to be less. Are they about the same as far as sound/HP gain?
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Old November 15th, 2007, 05:28 PM   #2
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heads, cam, belanger long tubes, no cats, borla sounds Wicked. Harley-esq even

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Old November 15th, 2007, 05:41 PM   #3
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that does sound awesome. how much of that sound was the heads and cam you think?
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Old November 15th, 2007, 05:41 PM   #4
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Old November 15th, 2007, 06:07 PM   #5
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That car sounds great! How much is your friend asking for the SVS headers?
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Old November 15th, 2007, 08:32 PM   #6
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sounds great, is this a huge cam or a greg good or jeff morey head cam package?
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Old November 15th, 2007, 08:39 PM   #7
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How much does he want for the SVS?
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Old November 16th, 2007, 01:06 AM   #8
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Going to SVS for headers is like ordering sushi at Mcdonalds.
Balengers are fit perfect and the best. Only header that
won't melt your engine bay without shields. Steel/Alumacoated.
They might be in the race for the next best thing, but when
a guy builds headers for a living, you've got a time tested proven product.
Lou if this makes you a million, I want my cut.
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Old November 16th, 2007, 06:33 AM   #9
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eBay Motors: SVS Dodge Viper Headers fits Gen I and Gen II (item 180180573154 end time Nov-19-07 22:22:30 PST)
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Old November 16th, 2007, 07:04 AM   #10
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WE have used SVS headers in the past... they did fit nicely and made great power.
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Old November 16th, 2007, 07:42 AM   #11
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A customer of mine had those on his car and all they do is burn up your plug wires. They make good power but maint. is constant.
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Old November 16th, 2007, 07:56 AM   #12
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How much is a set if M&M headers?
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Old November 16th, 2007, 08:28 AM   #13
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How much is a set if M&M headers?



1,300 for gen 1&2
1,600 SRT


that is of course, not taking in to consideration what your sales percentage is

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Old November 16th, 2007, 08:41 AM   #14
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I can't see spending that kind of money on a header for a GenI/II that is moving closer and closer to collector status. My 97 has about one or two more track seasons in it then it is moving into poser mode.

But I would be interested to see how much my laps times improved with a set of headers. Anybody wanna go in halvsies with me, let me run them for a year or two and then take them?
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Old November 16th, 2007, 09:11 AM   #15
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Any ideas? I have a friend who has a set of used SVS headers for sale off his GTS. I was thinking about putting some Belangers on my Gen II ACR but these are going to be less. Are they about the same as far as sound/HP gain?

Between the SVS, B&B, and Belanger, there is no comparison in the quality to the fabrication of the SVS with Burns merge collectors.

The B&B and Belanger are much lower quality, high volume product compared to the hand fabricated SVS headers.

I had a set of SVS headers on my car for a long time and they were great.

Anybody having a problem with the plug wires and/or airbox did not put the proper shielding or did something stupid.


I have a set of 1.5" stepped to 1 and 5/8" SVS headers available for purchase with cats attached. The car made 472 RWHP and 510 RWTQ on a 97 GTS with 1.7 T&D's.

Please call me @ 630-878-3907 for pricing.
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Old November 16th, 2007, 03:51 PM   #16
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Anybody having a problem with the plug wires and/or airbox did not put the proper shielding or did something stupid.


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Paolo, You cannot put the SVS headers on WITHOUT MODIFYING the heater airbox. There is not enough room for the box, the header comes up into where the airbox goes. There is no room for the # 4 plug wire without using longer wires and different routing.
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Old November 16th, 2007, 09:29 PM   #17
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Anybody having a problem with the plug wires and/or airbox did not put the proper shielding or did something stupid.


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Paolo, You cannot put the SVS headers on WITHOUT MODIFYING the heater airbox. There is not enough room for the box, the header comes up into where the airbox goes. There is no room for the # 4 plug wire without using longer wires and different routing.
I have a set of SVS headers and agree they are high quality. I didn't have to modify my airbox or wires but it's a very tight fit. It started to melt the box a bit but nothing major and hasn't gotten any worse.
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Old November 16th, 2007, 10:01 PM   #18
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Melt? Sounds like fun! :P

I'm still weighing my options.
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Old November 16th, 2007, 10:44 PM   #19
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Please don't say things that you know nothing about.......Belangers ARE NOT a high volume manufactured product!! They ARE hand fabricated by Lou Belanger himself! They ARE the headers chosen by Dodge for the 2008 Viper because they had NO failures in the exhaustive (no pun intended) testing with most of the "other" headers out there that failed because they cracked due to poor manufacturing.........you can make up your mind when you know all the facts!
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Old November 17th, 2007, 03:32 AM   #20
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