Snakebitten, you are absolutely right. They are the worst when it comes to seeing one of their bikes getting spanked. Only saw discussions on one of the Busa sites, but not the main .org site. Geralds, sounds like the might send up a 'representative' to race you. That would be fun. This time, perhaps you can have some small girl or guy in your car with you video taping it so we can see the whole thing and not just the side of the window, this way they can't argue about tucks, or shifting or anything else, as we can see it all.
Here is the link:
http://www.suzukihayabusa.org/cgi-bi...c;f=1;t=007195
And here are the posts for those of you who can't get to the site:
Video shows a supercharged Viper vs. a stock Busa from various gear rolls. From 2nd, it's pretty close, but from 3rd on, the busa gets walked. What do you think?
By the way, not my car or my Bike. Just posting for your opinions. Seems legit enough for a normal bike rider and a normal car driver (no power shifting, etc.)
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I'm certainly not trying to be a whiner here - seems like they were some pretty good runs, however, it seems that everytime the Viper "smoked" the Busa there was a Ford truck and some other frigging blue car in his lane. I just don't see the Busa rider pushing the bike hard enough. The couple of times he does nail it right the Busa is taking off quite rapidly compared to the Viper.
Personally I have smoked a (stock?)Viper and my bike is as stock as out of a crate. I just don't see the rider trying hard enough in this video.
Good video though.
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Remember, it was a supercharged Viper. A stock Busa will beat a stock anything, so the deal was to see if from a rolling start the Busa could hang with the super charged Viper through various gears. From 2nd gear through about half of 3rd gear, the Busa did good. After that, it pretty much... lost. Pretty fair, guys.
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I'm curious about why you choose to post that here. We all like videos, and there is no question the car is a fast motherfucker. But generally, you don't jump into a nest of snakes and tell them all that vipers are inferior, do you?
Be nice to see you line up with a Busa owner who wasn't part of the Dodge Club. That would shut many people up if you prevailed in that kind of situation.
Plenty of board members in FL, many of them friendly. Arrange a little get together and bring your camera, yes?
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Originally posted by ViperBusaOwner:
Remember, it was a supercharged Viper. A stock Busa will beat a stock anything, so the deal was to see if from a rolling start the Busa could hang with the super charged Viper through various gears. From 2nd gear through about half of 3rd gear, the Busa did good. After that, it pretty much... lost. Pretty fair, guys.
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There's no question that the car in the video is one fast sumbitch. But my point is that after seeing the video I can't quite convince myself that the Busa rider is riding the bike 100% and if that really is the case then its not a fair comparison.
If he is, then I stand corrected and the Busa stands smoked.
PS: I really think you should look into Fulltilts's offer - I think something should be arrangeable in San Diego too if that is the staging arena. Also, if you really want to go down supercharged avenue then you might want to compare that car to one of Motorhead's monsters. That would give you more of an apples to apples comparisons.
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So here we are again. Let's see how much money we can throw at a car to beat the Mighty Busa. Damn guys give it a rest.
Facts are facts.
Stock for stock our bikes SPANK you.
Dime for dime our bikes destroy you.
Its reality!
Deal with it.
Oh yeah, here snakey snakey!!! i'd be happy to run any ole dodge copperhead,rattler,viper thingie.
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SO, that bike with that set up can run a 9.40 1/4 mile with a good rider. Can that supercharged Viper run close to that? If so, post the damn slip....Why do we continue to do these "half ass" challenges? Cars in the road, can't see the bike half the time....This is what the dragstrip is for!! Bring that monster Viper to our track and be prepared to get beat...
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Hey viper. Check it out. Over on the schwinn site there is a viper getting ass tooled by a tricycle.. The tricycle is stock.
P.S. there was noone in the viper, but who cares. Blaaa blaaaaa blaaaaa.
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Damn guys give it a rest.
Facts are facts.
Stock for stock our bikes SPANK you.
Dime for dime our bikes destroy you.
Its reality!
Deal with it.
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I don't think that Busa rider was hitting it like he expected to be beat. It looks like he's not tucking in like he's going to hit 150 ....
he pulled the first time, but the Viper caught up as fast as the Busa pulled? not sure. I've never seen a car catch up to me after I've started pulling...
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Originally posted by ViperBusaOwner:
Video shows a supercharged Viper vs. a stock Busa from various gear rolls. From 2nd, it's pretty close, but from 3rd on, the busa gets walked. What do you think?
By the way, not my car or my Bike. Just posting for your opinions. Seems legit enough for a normal bike rider and a normal car driver (no power shifting, etc.)
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My opinion quit posting this crap and go to your car board and you can act like a baby.
Here only one thing matters start/finish line and like mods or it is like saying....
My Supercharged twin turbo NOS Viper VS. the SR71 rollons from mach 1 and the Viper loses Big F'ing deal quit posting loser
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this really is stupid but how about a dead stop start? (then how about a fininsh line?) How about no traffic? Lastly how about a busa owner that wants the Busa to win?
I couldn't even watch the whole thing (Network trouble) So i'm going off what everyone is saying about the conditions of the race.
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Yep, that busa got owned. But it wasn't my bike, nor was I riding. So to me, the busa RIDER got owned, not the bike itself. I agree with speedy. He didn't look like he was hitting it at 100%. But your point is well taken. Somebody got owned by the viper!
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I knew guys like this back in high school.
It doesn't take a real thinker to realize why a kid in a Subaru WRX can beat an old lady in a top-fuel funny car, whilst drag racing.
The irony here is that you'd think someone who has dumped $80,000 extra into a rednecky Viper would be able to beat a Hayabusa in a fair contest.
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This looks more like a "hey, I know what, let's try to make a video that seems to show that my car can easily outrun a piped Busa!" It wouldn't matter to me a bit if that car can smoke a Busa or not (I'd love to take a ride in it!!), but that video ain't it. The Busa rider isn't too convincing at all is he.
I'm going to make one this afternoon that proves that my 1973 Honda CL70 can pull a Busa through at least 3rd gear.
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P.S. I'm in Northern AL and would LOVE to run ANY fast car of any kind. Viper, rice rocket, anything. And I can travel a little too! Not all the way to Atlanta for example, but maybe Birmingham or Nashville (meet you halfway on I-65??).
Come on guys! If you smoke my non-NOS, non-Turbo, piped-only '99 it'll be fun for everybody, even me, and I'll be delighted to tell everybody here about it. And you can be certain that you have actually beaten a good Busa ridden with bad intentions.
Takers?????
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This looks more like a "hey, I know what, let's try to make a video that seems to show that my car can easily outrun a piped Busa!" It wouldn't matter to me a bit if that car can smoke a Busa or not (I'd love to take a ride in it!!), but that video ain't it. The Busa rider isn't too convincing at all is he.
I'm going to make one this afternoon that proves that my 1973 Honda CL70 can pull a Busa through at least 3rd gear.
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Are you f'ing kidding me that was the worst riding I've ever seen on a busa; why is that guy reaching for the clutch! Race a busa rider with some reasonable skills and the outcome will be much different. Pathetic!
That my friends is a typical "11-second" rider on a Hayabusa. I see those types at the track all the time how embarrasing (for the makers of that video) why would you want people to see your lack of ability like that?
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Hmmmm-take a viper gts at 3300 lbs, add two people (one driving, one filming 180lbs each) total weight for viper at 3660. Take rwhp of tubo charged viper at 600rwhp and you get weight to power ratio 6.1. Apply the same formula to the busa 700 pounds for bike and driver, and 160 rwhp gets a weight to power ratio of 4.37 (that's one rwhp pushing 4.37 pounds compared to one rwhp pushing 6.1 pounds) Do the math viper guys, the laws of physics say you're full of shit.
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Definitely. Isn't that car supercharged though?? What about NOS? How much hp is it likely to have at the wheels?
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posted July 20, 2003 02:18 PM
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Whether supercharged or turbocharged the results are usually around 600 rwhp. Stock viper gts is around 400 rwhp.
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Originally posted by RAC4IT:
Are you f'ing kidding me that was the worst riding I've ever seen on a busa; why is that guy reaching for the clutch! Race a busa rider with some reasonable skills and the outcome will be much different. Pathetic!
That my friends is a typical "11-second" rider on a Hayabusa. I see those types at the track all the time how embarrasing (for the makers of that video) why would you want people to see your lack of ability like that?
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Damn Rac4it, you is one sorry ass pup. The original post said it wasn't about the best rider vs the best driver. The car driver wasn't the best either as he wasn't power shifting -- so what?
Why don't you go out and film yourself smoking some of these Supercharged cars and show us what you can do then. Sheeesh. Blah Blah, Blah Blah Blah!
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posted July 20, 2003 02:23 PM
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Hmmmm-take a viper gts at 3300 lbs, add two people (one driving, one filming 180lbs each) total weight for viper at 3660. Take rwhp of tubo charged viper at 600rwhp and you get weight to power ratio 6.1. Apply the same formula to the busa 700 pounds for bike and driver, and 160 rwhp gets a weight to power ratio of 4.37 (that's one rwhp pushing 4.37 pounds compared to one rwhp pushing 6.1 pounds) Do the math viper guys, the laws of physics say you're full of shit.
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Oh, now you know how much Horsepower the car has, do you? Wow! Actually, I believe it is about 50% more than what you are claiming, but whatever. You also didn't factor is a bunch of of shit, like wind resistance and the fact that the Viper doesn't like to come off the ground, so you can mash the pedal as hard as you want.
Viper owner picked up two hooter girls after the race while Busa rider with his helmet hair went to supermarket for some vaseline.
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Why don't you go out and film yourself smoking some of these Supercharged cars and show us what you can do then. Sheeesh. Blah Blah, Blah Blah Blah!
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Hey, here I am!! I'm ready!
If the Busa rider went to get some Vaseline it was probably because he had a date that night.
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I actually suspect that Rac4it could probably take almost any Viper in the country.
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Something else to consider. They've got more money tied into that supercharger than you paid for your bike.
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posted July 20, 2003 02:32 PM
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By the way, the Viper definitely has more aero drag than a Busa. A much better Cd for sure, but way more total drag for sure.
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I guess I could take my z06 and spend 30 grand to have a tt 427 installed and street race unsuspecting hayabusas or vipers for that matter. What's your point?
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posted July 20, 2003 02:48 PM
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A few of you who posted gave props where props were deserved. The rest of you seem grumpy any time someone mentions that a car could possible beat a bike -- your bike. It DOES take a lot of money to make a car as fast or faster than the world's fastest production bike -- we all know that. When that happens and you have a car that is not only faster, but can out handle it and you can eat and talk on the phone while hauling ass, it's all cool.
Be happy for the rider -- on any other bike, it would have been smoked even worse. That car is known for taking down bike riders.
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Nope, you would still have Busa owners complaining that the rider was no good, or why was he raching for a clutch or complaining about something else. At least in the Viper Forums, people will tell other Viper owners they will get smoked when they mention going out and trying to race a Hayabusa. It just so happens that this one car is faster.
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posted July 20, 2003 02:51 PM
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Enough bullshit, a video at a sanctioned track is in order. Really, the first vid you posted was somewhat believable. Ive driven fast cars, and I tell you what when you open up 1st gear on a busa and your ass is sliding to the back of the seat its akward watching a car pull harder than that.
At this point I dont know if this vid is real or if the rider of the busa wasnt pushing the bike. Like some others have suggested, get a busa rider not a viper owner to ride the thing at a track against that same car.
I mean really, a car pulling on a busa that hard is really unbelievable. Even 750 rwhp, its still difficult to believe. With that much power you would think it would be an even match not the viper pulling away like that.
And the fact that the car was even getting the power to the ground was troubling. I used to spin my 315's really easy with a mild 500 at the wheels. That car was only good for an 11.9@119mph with a 1.8 60ft. on ET streets.
And I had that car as light as it could be, close to a viper at 3420 on a scale. Dynabatt battery, sound deadining removed, spare tire/jack removed, chromoly A arms/K member, 2 gallons of gas., no back seat.
I mean a stock hayabusa will do a low 10 with traction problems at a high 130 low 140 mph easy. I dont know the numbers might add up but its still really hard to imagine it pulling on a busa like that.
Time to post round 3 at a track and if the outcome is the same I will personally come to the viper site and state "vipers own busa's".
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Are you f'ing kidding me that was the worst riding I've ever seen on a busa; why is that guy reaching for the clutch! Race a busa rider with some reasonable skills and the outcome will be much different. Pathetic!
That my friends is a typical "11-second" rider on a Hayabusa. I see those types at the track all the time how embarrasing (for the makers of that video) why would you want people to see your lack of ability like that?
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Damn Rac4it, you is one sorry ass pup. The original post said it wasn't about the best rider vs the best driver. The car driver wasn't the best either as he wasn't power shifting -- so what?
Why don't you go out and film yourself smoking some of these Supercharged cars and show us what you can do then. Sheeesh. Blah Blah, Blah Blah Blah!
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Funny you should say that I DID and guess what no car drivers including Walser wanted to make it FAIR
The only way they would race is with no starting line (they got the move) and no finish line the stop when they are ahead
Stll a BUSA won
Not grumpy just pissed off at cars guys not wanting to be fair.
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A rolling race from 20MPH (to kill some of the traction issues that might arise) to 150MPH would be a decent race, I think.
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Are you f'ing kidding me that was the worst riding I've ever seen on a busa; why is that guy reaching for the clutch! Race a busa rider with some reasonable skills and the outcome will be much different. Pathetic!
That my friends is a typical "11-second" rider on a Hayabusa. I see those types at the track all the time how embarrasing (for the makers of that video) why would you want people to see your lack of ability like that?
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Damn Rac4it, you is one sorry ass pup. The original post said it wasn't about the best rider vs the best driver. The car driver wasn't the best either as he wasn't power shifting -- so what?
Why don't you go out and film yourself smoking some of these Supercharged cars and show us what you can do then. Sheeesh. Blah Blah, Blah Blah Blah!
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Funny you should say that I DID and guess what no car drivers including Walser wanted to make it FAIR
The only way they would race is with no starting line (they got the move) and no finish line the stop when they are ahead
Stll a BUSA won
Not grumpy just pissed off at cars guys not wanting to be fair.
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Seriously, that video might be compelling evidence to a hormonal 10th grader but to folks who were street racing long before the kids in the video were born?? Hmmm...probably not!
Where do they get the fargin' money for those things anyway?? That doesn't look like a particularly affuent neighborhood.
I NEED to race one of these things. I DON'T even care if it wins.
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I have a very, very big penis and can make it erect in .72 seconds faster than ANY Viper owner. From a dead stop, rollon, you name it, I can beat all! I have the video to prove it, too.
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