Bump? Or an EDIT 24 minutes later, to remove something that belonged on your thread?
Paolo, congrats. You have the patience of Job, and have shown a lot of class by staying silent. Sorry to see your thread shit on so badly by people without manners.
What's going on on the board is so ironic. For so long the only thing keeping most Viper owners that wanted the most efficient power maker from buying TT's was the price. Now that you've made it affordable to more Viper owners Kevin goes "retro" on everybody.
There are all different kinds. I'd pick your turbos over any Paxton any time. But you can put a Corvette and a Viper side by side on a car lot for the same price, and someone will come along and want the Corvette.
well - I hate to put my 2 cents into a personal crapfest - but I have to agree that Paolo is known for his passion about what he does, and people love it or hate it, but he is finally getting some respect - well deserved for his persistent efforts...
it certainly is a cheap shot for others to try and derail his own thread into side issues.... it is especially pathetic when done by someone who does not need to worry over whether Paolo is going to steal all his customers.
Lighten the fuck up people - if Paolo's TT system sucks - come drag your brainy ass in here and point out how his TT setup is so much worse than everyone elses....
i doubt there is anyone here dumb enough to do that because they'll be owned
All this crap comes down to ego... I wonder if it is pissing some people off that someone without having done all the trade cert training has self-taught and is beginning to actually make a business by focusing on doing their absolute best for long enough they're actually making a product so good and at a rate so attractive - it's embrarrassing.
and Paolo - like Greg said - staying out of the shit is the best thing you can do - nothing will stick man - let them take a dump, time and persistence has a habit of settling all scores. BTW - don't be the cheapest - be the best and make some money...
well - I hate to put my 2 cents into a personal crapfest - but I have to agree that Paolo is known for his passion about what he does, and people love it or hate it, but he is finally getting some respect - well deserved for his persistent efforts...
it certainly is a cheap shot for others to try and derail his own thread into side issues.... it is especially pathetic when done by someone who does not need to worry over whether Paolo is going to steal all his customers.
Lighten the fuck up people - if Paolo's TT system sucks - come drag your brainy ass in here and point out how his TT setup is so much worse than everyone elses....
i doubt there is anyone here dumb enough to do that because they'll be owned
All this crap comes down to ego... I wonder if it is pissing some people off that someone without having done all the trade cert training has self-taught and is beginning to actually make a business by focusing on doing their absolute best for long enough they're actually making a product so good and at a rate so attractive - it's embrarrassing.
and Paolo - like Greg said - staying out of the shit is the best thing you can do - nothing will stick man - let them take a dump, time and persistence has a habit of settling all scores. BTW - don't be the cheapest - be the best and make some money...
Check this thread again. Nobody is crapping on Paolo's kit including any UR nutswingers. I answered Joe Dells accusation of fraud regarding our dyno numbers on this thread which I will continue to do wherever he tries to run that. Now go look at my supercharger thread and see all the bashing by Paolo's nutswingers of the supercharger system. Let's be fair about this Barry and I know you are. "I wish I was still a PFR" has been crapping all over my thread as well as others. I guess my nutswingers could come onto this thread and fuck it up and I could claim I was above the fray too but that's not how I operate.
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Paolo, congrats. You have the patience of Job, and have shown a lot of class by staying silent. Sorry to see your thread shit on so badly by people without manners.
What's going on on the board is so ironic. For so long the only thing keeping most Viper owners that wanted the most efficient power maker from buying TT's was the price. Now that you've made it affordable to more Viper owners Kevin goes "retro" on everybody.
There are all different kinds. I'd pick your turbos over any Paxton any time. But you can put a Corvette and a Viper side by side on a car lot for the same price, and someone will come along and want the Corvette.
Kevin,
Grow up man! I see you on Paolo's thread more than I see Paolo on his own thread! This he said she said should stop right here!
Paolo,
If you read this, would you please post your first post of what your selling to get this thread back on track?
There have been a lot of questions about exactly what comes with my DIY T-04 Side mounted Twin Turbo System.
Here is a dyno Graph for what the system can make on a bone stock forged motor:
Here is the breakdown for exactly what you get:
1. Turbo system
2. Fuel system and engine management
Here is what is included with the turbo system for $9999.99
- .96 AR T-04 66mm Turbos With GTQ turbine wheels(800 HP each)
- CPE High flow Turbo Exhaust Manifolds and Up Pipes
- 3" Stainless Steel downpipes With V-band Connections
- (2) Tial 44mm Turbo Wastegates
- Tial 50mm Blow Off Valve
- Mandrel Bent High Flow Intercooler Plumbing
- High Flow Custom CPE Front Mount Air-Air Intercooler
- All Necessary T-bolt piping Clamps
- High Pressure Silicone Intercooler Plumbing Connectors
- Turbo Oil Feed Lines and Fittings
- Turbo Oil Drain Lines and Fittings
- High Temperature Silicone Wastegate Control Lines
- All Necessary Vacuum Tees and Hoses
- High Flow Turbo Inlet Plumbing
- Dual High Flow S&B Air Filters
- Heavy duty engine mounts
- Lifetime warranty on all piping
Fuel system upgrade:
- Polished fuel rails,with stainless steel mounting hardware and throttle cable bracket, O-ring AN fittings:
-55#/hr fuel injectors
-Boost-a-Pump, Tested to 800RWHP so far.
Engine management:
- Vec 3
Fuel system upgrade for *EDIT* 800 *EDIT* RWHP and engine management = $2,500.00
Installation and tuning =$2,500.00
Total = $14,999.99
Instead of boost-a-pump, I could substitute a walbro 255 with lines and fittings and a fuel pressure regulator for another $200.00 making the fuel system upgrade $2,700.00 vs $2,500.00 for the boost-a-pump setup.
The additional labor to install extra walbro in the tank would add $300.00 to the installation cost.
So 900 RWHP would be $15,499.00 installed and tuned. My mistake. I will definitely do it for that price.
Additional upgrades:
Here is what the Twin Side Mounted Intercoolers for 1K looks like:
Benefits:
1. No blockage of air to radiator, oil cooler or AC condensor associated with front mount intercoolers.
2. No preheating of air going through AC condensor, Oil Cooler or Radiator.
3. It is possible to fit much more intercooler core/volume/heat sink capability behind the foglights.
Intercooler piping that comes out behind the radiator for $350.00 looks like this:
Cool Air Intake: My system pulls air from outside the hot engine compartment!
Here is a picture of the monster air filters positioned in the front of the car outside of the engine compartment pulling nothing but cool, dense air to the turbos to force feed your snake with only the best!
Here is also a picture of where the air filters will be placed for the front mount intercooler setup:
==> Unlike the Paxton supercharger setup, this system pulls cool air through monster sized air filters!
I can do the entire system installed and tuned with VEC 3 and a BAP for $14,999.99 in about 1.5 weeks turnaround time.
Benefits of Turbocharging vs Supercharging:
1. It takes 100-150 RWHP(depending on boost level) to spin the Paxton supercharger.
What does this mean to the end user?
a. With Supercharger, lower peak RWHP on stock fuel pump/Boost-a-Pump combination.
b. More stress crank snout and reciprocating assembly at a given RWHP compared to a turbo car.
So whatever the supercharger is putting to the wheels, add another 100-150 the engine has to make to spin the supercharger.
More power output = shorter engine life period.
2. Adjustability of boost from the cockpit.
To change boost levels with a supercharger, you physically need to change to a smaller or larger pulley to spin the supercharger faster or slower to make more or less boost.
With an adjustable boost controller, the end user can adjust the boost level while driving or electronically with the engine management or the boost controller alone if advanced enough.
Adjustability of boost revisited:
==> With turbos, not only can the boost be adjusted from inside the cockpit, but also by Gear, RPM, Time/etc...
What does this mean for driveability for cars making a lot of power ie 900+RWHP?
Being able to ramp in the boost with turbos will be more user friendly, safer and easier to control.
Bump? Or an EDIT 24 minutes later, to remove something that belonged on your thread?
Paolo, congrats. You have the patience of Job, and have shown a lot of class by staying silent. Sorry to see your thread shit on so badly by people without manners.
What's going on on the board is so ironic. For so long the only thing keeping most Viper owners that wanted the most efficient power maker from buying TT's was the price. Now that you've made it affordable to more Viper owners Kevin goes "retro" on everybody.
There are all different kinds. I'd pick your turbos over any Paxton any time. But you can put a Corvette and a Viper side by side on a car lot for the same price, and someone will come along and want the Corvette.
Greg, If Kevin had edited his post 24 minutes after making ANY post it would be automatically labeled "edited" and time stamped as such. My guess is he was putting the friendly screws to Paolo. But bumping P's thread is not so bad, is it?
Grow up man! I see you on Paolo's thread more than I see Paolo on his own thread! This he said she said should stop right here!
Paolo,
If you read this, would you please post your first post of what your selling to get this thread back on track?
Thanks,
Jay K.
You're spinning what's going on here. I guess I could start a thread selling gas caps, have someone call you a fraud on that thread, and then tell you to grow up if you defended yourself. You're a Paolo supporter and that's fine, but let's stay with the facts here. Go to my thread with your admonitions to the crowd shitting on it.
Additionally this entire thread was created to knock my supercharger thread and most objective people have seen this from the first post.
well - I hate to put my 2 cents into a personal crapfest - but I have to agree that Paolo is known for his passion about what he does, and people love it or hate it, but he is finally getting some respect - well deserved for his persistent efforts...
it certainly is a cheap shot for others to try and derail his own thread into side issues.... it is especially pathetic when done by someone who does not need to worry over whether Paolo is going to steal all his customers.
Lighten the fuck up people - if Paolo's TT system sucks - come drag your brainy ass in here and point out how his TT setup is so much worse than everyone elses....
i doubt there is anyone here dumb enough to do that because they'll be owned
All this crap comes down to ego... I wonder if it is pissing some people off that someone without having done all the trade cert training has self-taught and is beginning to actually make a business by focusing on doing their absolute best for long enough they're actually making a product so good and at a rate so attractive - it's embrarrassing.
and Paolo - like Greg said - staying out of the shit is the best thing you can do - nothing will stick man - let them take a dump, time and persistence has a habit of settling all scores. BTW - don't be the cheapest - be the best and make some money...
Barry, I don't recall ANY PLACE in this great thread where ANYONE said a negative thing about Paolo's TT kit??? Should Kevin leave it alone, probably. Will he??? Probably not. Does he believe Joseph shit in "his" thread at the direct or indirect direction of Paolo?? I tend to believe he does. Do 2 wrongs make a right??? I think you get the point here... Anyway to get back on track with what I was saying earlier. Not a single person has took a crap on THIS thread to praise the benefits of the other tuner(s). Yet if you visited UGR's thread, he was insulted, called a fraud, and a liar for claiming to make numbers not possible with his advertised "deal"
This place is filled with bias and the emotions regarding each "teams" camp is running at what seems to an all time, yearly high. WHICH IS GOOD. With Bradenton around the corner, it will be fun putting all the smack on the TRACK like it has always been done on the ALLEY.
Carry on with P's thread and like I said. It is an absolute work of are and P should be proud of his work here.
1. You're not a fraud, You're a high end TT builder who knows his sh*t!
2. Don't sell gas caps, they're not your thing.
3. There nothing wrong with SCs just their top end limitations.
4. This thread has nothing ... I repeat NOTHING to do with your SC business.
No games here:
This is offering a Twin Turbo solution to the Viper community for a fraction of the high end price.
5. I'll make it over to your thread, read it from start to finish and see what you're saying, but won't comment on it here on Paolo's Thread. This is about Paolo and his Twin Turbo setup.
Greg, If Kevin had edited his post 24 minutes after making ANY post it would be automatically labeled "edited" and time stamped as such. My guess is he was putting the friendly screws to Paolo. But bumping P's thread is not so bad, is it?
Originally posted "Yesterday, 6:04 P.M.".
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