Sorry I use the fail safe of gravity for oil scavenging.
And let me get this straight, mr claiming to have 2 vipers, building all these other turbo kits... and you can't front another few hundred $$$ for rails, injectors, and a boost a pump?
Real impressive kit you made there. I don't even care if it doesn't make crazy amounts of HP a viper with this kit would still beat 95% of the cars that are being put out now a days. I would be interested in buying a kit like this in future if I am fortunate enough to get my viper.
Its an electric spur gear driven oilk scavenege pump. Anybody have any success with this pump? Seems promising.
Yes, the RB pump is junk. This guy does not know what he is talking about. That pump is the same that they use on the Fbody rear turbo kit. I tried one and it failed after less than a year. the surflow pumps are built much better, they are a much beefer motor, just make sure to get one with viton seals to handle the hot motor oil. I have two of these with check valves before and after the tubo (to keep oil from flowing back into the turbo) these are sell priming pumps so you will not need a "scavange tank" Get on the mustang turbo forum and do a seach on oil pumps-lots of information. Rouge is correct, the best way is to mount the turbos high enough you can drain into the pan. You should have been able to do this since you made your own headers. Also note you will need an oil restictor before the tee out of your sending unit. Vipers have alot of head pressure and that will blow oil right past the turbo seals.
Sorry I use the fail safe of gravity for oil scavenging.
And let me get this straight, mr claiming to have 2 vipers, building all these other turbo kits... and you can't front another few hundred $$$ for rails, injectors, and a boost a pump?
I'm calling bullshit.
its a little more than a few hundered, $300 boost-a-pump, $500 rails, $500 injectors, plus fittings, braded line, regulator. Well over $1500 and that is not even a system I would consider because a boost-a-pump is bandaid for not doing it right and running multiple pumps in the canister.
its a little more than a few hundered, $300 boost-a-pump, $500 rails, $500 injectors, plus fittings, braded line, regulator. Well over $1500 and that is not even a system I would consider because a boost-a-pump is bandaid for not doing it right and running multiple pumps in the canister.
Even worst case scenario of $2k... it's cheaper than doing some half ass bullshit and blowing up the motor.
I just find it very very odd that he would use such a relatively inexpensive copout as his reason to not backup all the bullshit claims he's been making.
It seems to me certain things should have been budgeted for in the beginning, before he started talking a bunch of shit on how bad ass his heap was.
Last edited by ROGUE GTS : August 17th, 2007 at 10:12 AM.
I figured it was only a matter of time rouge gts would come onto this thread and start trashing it. Im not going to start another pissing contest with you rogue gts you can call b.s all day long I don't really care.
Im a very honest person. I have given great customer service to the v6 market and all my customers can vouch on that.
But what you see is what you get. I've posted pics to back up my claims.
Plain and simple this kit was built for my dad. My dad just wants his viper back since its been down for a few months. He doesn't really care if its turobcharged or not. As it stands we're keeping the kit unless somebody else really wants it for really cheap. If thats the case you can contact me.
Im not going into the viper turbo kit market. My dad wants his car's running. I'll just be making completed one off kits here and there from time to time. Im a full time student in 3d animation/visual effects so I got other interest im pursuing. Maybe not what my customers want to hear but i don't give a fuk I rather be honest then be one of those companies that feed you with lies.
Yes, the RB pump is junk. This guy does not know what he is talking about. That pump is the same that they use on the Fbody rear turbo kit. I tried one and it failed after less than a year. the surflow pumps are built much better, they are a much beefer motor, just make sure to get one with viton seals to handle the hot motor oil. I have two of these with check valves before and after the tubo (to keep oil from flowing back into the turbo) these are sell priming pumps so you will not need a "scavange tank" Get on the mustang turbo forum and do a seach on oil pumps-lots of information. Rouge is correct, the best way is to mount the turbos high enough you can drain into the pan. You should have been able to do this since you made your own headers. Also note you will need an oil restictor before the tee out of your sending unit. Vipers have alot of head pressure and that will blow oil right past the turbo seals.
Hey Dansauto. From the begining you've been of great help and giving me pretty good advice. Just wanted to thankyou for that.
haha thanks for the info on the RB pump. He's been heaping up his stuff.
Ya My dad wanted a foot side mount kit in that location. Very hard to get it to drain to the oil pan if putting that turbo in that location. I seen a heffner kit using T3 turbos was barely able to do it and even then it was cutting it real close to not draining correctly. Once you put in T4 turbos practically impossible to have it drain correctly from a footwell side mout. Have to cut out that 1" bar frame and relocate it forward more.
The 2nd design I make will definetly be a gravity feed system. Thanks for your input Dansatuo.
You can't even afford to do the fuel system on your first busted ass hack job attempt.
And now you're spewing more bullshit about building a bigger, badder, 2nd system.
I hope you lose your legs...you are a fucking cock...why can't you leave people alone, or give them props for doing something you can't do...oh because you are alittle bitch thats why...no worries, keep telling yourself that you are better than everyone else...It's not a lie if you believe it!
I hope you lose your legs...you are a fucking cock...why can't you leave people alone, or give them props for doing something you can't do...oh because you are alittle bitch thats why...no worries, keep telling yourself that you are better than everyone else...It's not a lie if you believe it!
Why do people continue to spout off total bullshit? Something I can't do? hahahahahahahahaha thats fucking rich. There are more than enough people here to validate my abilities, I don't have shit to prove.
You're the pussy hurt faggot hiding behind an ae, why don't you come out and show you cock gobbling face?
I hope you lose your legs...you are a fucking cock...why can't you leave people alone, or give them props for doing something you can't do...oh because you are alittle bitch thats why...no worries, keep telling yourself that you are better than everyone else...It's not a lie if you believe it!
Rogue, that looks like a Double Dog Dare to me!
Don't put your tongue on the flagpole! LOL!
Wizz, Rogue can fabricate just fine.
BTW, his level of skill welding .120 wall stainless is very similar to Andy's.
Why do people continue to spout off total bullshit? Something I can't do? hahahahahahahahaha thats fucking rich. There are more than enough people here to validate my abilities, I don't have shit to prove.
You're the pussy hurt faggot hiding behind an ae, why don't you come out and show you cock gobbling face?
There was a chance to see me yesterday @ the Coffey Beanery on Woodward...so why don't you come out and show your face asshole...I'm out there, where are you?
Yes, the RB pump is junk. This guy does not know what he is talking about. That pump is the same that they use on the Fbody rear turbo kit. I tried one and it failed after less than a year. the surflow pumps are built much better, they are a much beefer motor, just make sure to get one with viton seals to handle the hot motor oil. I have two of these with check valves before and after the tubo (to keep oil from flowing back into the turbo) these are sell priming pumps so you will not need a "scavange tank" Get on the mustang turbo forum and do a seach on oil pumps-lots of information. Rouge is correct, the best way is to mount the turbos high enough you can drain into the pan. You should have been able to do this since you made your own headers. Also note you will need an oil restictor before the tee out of your sending unit. Vipers have alot of head pressure and that will blow oil right past the turbo seals.
Hey Dan. I had a few more questions. I just want to make sure I do it right. I was afraid of using oil restrictors b/c i've heard they starve journal bearing turbos oil and may damage the turbos. But I think I will be okay to use restrictors since the viper has a high flow oil pump.
Why do you have a check valve before the turbo? The turbo is always fed with high oil pressure on the feed side so i don't see why a check valve before turbo is needed. Since the oil is at 60 psi+ on the feed side why would it ever see back pressure?
Also why a check valve on the drain side. If the turbo is above the oil level no oil would enter back into the drain line.
I'll do it and get these parts but it has to make some sence to me
Im guessing you get the supply of oil right at the oil filter unit. I have to unplug the brass plug? Thats how mustangs are must making sure its the same for vipers.
Hey Dan. I had a few more questions. I just want to make sure I do it right. I was afraid of using oil restrictors b/c i've heard they starve journal bearing turbos oil and may damage the turbos. But I think I will be okay to use restrictors since the viper has a high flow oil pump.
Why do you have a check valve before the turbo? The turbo is always fed with high oil pressure on the feed side so i don't see why a check valve before turbo is needed. Since the oil is at 60 psi+ on the feed side why would it ever see back pressure?
Also why a check valve on the drain side. If the turbo is above the oil level no oil would enter back into the drain line.
I'll do it and get these parts but it has to make some sence to me
Im guessing you get the supply of oil right at the oil filter unit. I have to unplug the brass plug? Thats how mustangs are must making sure its the same for vipers.
Alright Dan thanks for your help
if you dont put a check on each side of the turbo the oil will drain into the turbo and smoke on start up. The turbo is the lowest point in your system. Yes you need to t off your sending unit for oil supply to the turbos, running 3/8 braded line. Vipers have 40-60 # of head pressure so if you dont restrict this you will blow oil right past the turbo seals and it will smoke like a fogger! Turbos do NOT need much oil 10-15 lbs of pressure is fine. If you use the surflow pumps you will not need a scavange tank.
if you dont put a check on each side of the turbo the oil will drain into the turbo and smoke on start up. The turbo is the lowest point in your system. Yes you need to t off your sending unit for oil supply to the turbos, running 3/8 braded line. Vipers have 40-60 # of head pressure so if you dont restrict this you will blow oil right past the turbo seals and it will smoke like a fogger! Turbos do NOT need much oil 10-15 lbs of pressure is fine. If you use the surflow pumps you will not need a scavange tank.
Dont you think you will run into problems running low boost with the 38mm Gates and those tiny back housings? Its 4.0ltrs you will be pushing through each of those tiny housings and gates..
