2.) It will give the GenI guys some real bolt-on power.
Why it will not sell.
1.) Cheap. Some guys just have to shop at Nordstrum and not Wal-Mart.
2.) Limited Power.
3.) Looks. It may not best the best looking turbo system.
4.) No upgrade ablity (space limited)
5.) Unproven system. (This is the big one.)
If you can make it cost $4500. It will sell. Once you get a few on the track w/ numbers, dyno and 1/4mi. 650rwhp for arould $6,000(DIY w/Split sec or VEC) or maybe $8,000(installed). It's a no brainer to the not-so-uber-rich-viper-guy.
But much like the Roe, it will be limited to the amount of power it will make. This is a entry level kit. The turbo's are small for a viper sized lump. It will be enough for "normal" viper guys though.
For me, personaly, it will not work. It doesn't make enough power. But then again, I'm one of the craziest SOB you will ever meet. I want a 2000rwhp race car as daily driver. Crazy to the bone I am
Good luck. Keep in mind your volume will be small.
Last edited by Disturbed : July 22nd, 2007 at 07:18 AM.
Reason: added # 5.
2.) It will give the GenI guys some real bolt-on power.
Why it will not sell.
1.) Cheap. Some guys just have to shop at Nordstrum and not Wal-Mart.
2.) Limited Power.
3.) Looks. It may not best the best looking turbo system.
4.) No upgrade ablity (space limited)
5.) Unproven system. (This is the big one.)
If you can make it cost $4500. It will sell. Once you get a few on the track w/ numbers, dyno and 1/4mi. 650rwhp for arould $6,000(DIY w/Split sec or VEC) or maybe $8,000(installed). It's a no brainer to the not-so-uber-rich-viper-guy.
But much like the Roe, it will be limited to the amount of power it will make. This is a entry level kit. The turbo's are small for a viper sized lump. It will be enough for "normal" viper guys though.
For me, personaly, it will not work. It doesn't make enough power. But then again, I'm one of the craziest SOB you will ever meet. I want a 2000rwhp race car as daily driver. Crazy to the bone I am
Good luck. Keep in mind your volume will be small.
Disturbed ... what your missing here, due to lack of experience , is that you dont have to be an "uber rich viper owner" to afford a quality turbo system.
I suggest if your seriously interested in a turbo system for your viper , you call Jason @ Heffner's or Kevin at UGR and allow them to explain to you the ratio of dollars spent on thier systems, to the resale value the cars they build command.
Not to mention thier systems cant be touched by any of these cheap imitation systems .... its been said hundreds of time .... if you want a reliable, beautiful , big power producing turbo system, with a tuner that will stand behind it .... you know who to call.
Disturbed ... what your missing here, due to lack of experience , is that you dont have to be an "uber rich viper owner" to afford a quality turbo system.
I suggest if your seriously interested in a turbo system for your viper , you call Jason @ Heffner's or Kevin at UGR and allow them to explain to you the ratio of dollars spent on thier systems, to the resale value the cars they build command.
Not to mention thier systems cant be touched by any of these cheap imitation systems .... its been said hundreds of time .... if you want a reliable, beautiful , big power producing turbo system, with a tuner that will stand behind it .... you know who to call.
Very well said. Even though that means it will be longer before I will allow myself to afford the upgrade, at least I won't be getting some crap-ass'ed half-done, engine killing "bargain" from somebody who probably designs their system in crayons and fingerpaints.
Among, With all due respect, I will have to disagree with you.
While I will agree money lost in re-sale of a big time tuner kit is better.
A lot of viper owners can't afford to spend 45k on a 1000rwhp build. I've already check pricing from UGR and Heffner.
This is more for the DIY crowd. People who would put on a Roe S/C in their garage over a few weekends. This is for the guy that HAS TO settle for a Roe instead that monster TT system he REALLY wants. We can not compair this system to something that one of the Tuners puts out.
This kit is geared more to the guys who make 40k/yr that has a wife and family to support along with his HP addiction. This is for the guy who getting an extra 10k means that he has to brown bag his lunch for the rest of his life.
I myself have close to 50k to spend. I need a full cage, build stroker motor(542cid) , Drive Train, areo kit, AEM, Big brakes, Tires/rims, fire suppresion, mono ball suspenion, ect ect ect. I've already done my homework and just in parts alone, it's over 90k. This is to convert my GTS into the high speed, high power demon I want.
So what is a guy like me going to do, to get what I want. Simple. Buy a race car. Sell my street car. Then do the build. Cost in motor/turbo and misc crap comes in a little under 50k. That's with me doing the work.
As I stated before, this kit isn't for me, or for you Among. But it is for the rest of us working whores who just want more bolt-on power. Just think of this kit as a Roe SC replacement, nothing more.
Very well said. Even though that means it will be longer before I will allow myself to afford the upgrade, at least I won't be getting some crap-ass'ed half-done, engine killing "bargain" from somebody who probably designs their system in crayons and fingerpaints.
If you can save up the extra money, that's awesome! Go for one of the Tuner's kit, I think that's a great choice, if your blessed with the money to do.
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