I was working on the car and noticed the brembo stamp on the back of the Caliper. This is the first I've heard of this. It was news to me just though I would pass it along.
I knew the GenIII brakes were from Brembo. But never heard that about GenII. I'm sure there are others who didn't know as well.
If the brakes are made by such a well know manufacture, why does everyone say the stock brakes are bad. I think the work great for the street and minor track duty.
If the brakes are made by such a well know manufacture, why does everyone say the stock brakes are bad. I think the work great for the street and minor track duty.
Actually, the ACR brakes aren't as bad because they came with upgraded PFC 83/90 pads from the factory. But the rear Gen1/2 brakes are too small in general and upgrading to 40mm rear brakes will really snap your neck.
Its not that the calipers are bad - they are Brembo - its that the whole braking system is underrated for the car. Just look at the 60mph-0 stop distances.
Now the gen3s - that's a different story - those cars have brakes!
Who makes upgraded calipers then for the rear that are reasonable for a GEN II? I guess the key word for me is "reasonable", and that my friends means like $39 a caliper :-) Seriously, if they are a few hundred bucks or the like, I might be interested. Would I then need an adjustable proportioning valve to compensate for the pressure difference? Right now I am only running BM3 pads front and rear and Extereme 6 brake fluid, and although that helped, I need more stopping power on the cheap if possible as these are almost good enough for me, but a bit more is better.
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Tom Hayden's reworked 40mm stock rear calipers are an excellent choice. Straight bolt-on at around $600. You can further improve performance by simply pulling the spring out of the proportioning section of the combination valve (non ABS).
Dean, do I do spring ONLY with these calipers, or is it something I can do right now? Is $600 exchange or outright purchase? Contact info for Tom Hayden if anyone has it (can't do it now, just paid nearly $3K for my trans that I busted). TY! Gary
The spring removal is something I did about 3 months after I got my GTS in 1996. It is either a 5/8" or 3/4" hex cap and it is very snugly tightened to the combination valve. They are straight threads and as soon as you break it loose it will spin easier, but the proportioning spring is bearing against the backside. Put a rag on the frame rail to catch the drips. Inside the spring is an anodized spool that seats into a seal - the infamous o-ring that everyone talks about removing, but that's unnecessary. The first time you apply the brakes, the seal will unseat and defeat the proportioning function. Just pull the spring and close it back up.
$600(+/-) includes core exchange. Do a search for Tom's Brakes at the mORGue. He's not hard to find - he does double duty as the Fuel and Lubes Geek of the Realm.
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