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Old May 3rd, 2007, 09:53 AM   #1
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Roe Supercharger Help

I just finished putting a Roe Supercharger on my 2001 GTS (creampuff) has a 5psi pully. I have 3 cards programmed for the VECII, the 2 with the 6Degree timing retard ping badly, the one programmed for 91 octane gas (9 degree) works better but pings as i am getting on the gas between 3 to 4K RPM. I have stock plugs, k&n, smooth tubes, belanger headers, random tech cats, b&b exhaust, t&d rockers. need some advice on what the problem could be.
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Old May 3rd, 2007, 09:56 AM   #2
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Do you have a laptop / Wideband / etc? If so, I would check timing in that area, check fuel (data log).

There is somewhat of a 'common' issue of slight detonation between that area from what I have seen from otheres tunes, but on 5psi you should be able to get rid of it. Do you have W/M?

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I just finished putting a Roe Supercharger on my 2001 GTS (creampuff) has a 5psi pully. I have 3 cards programmed for the VECII, the 2 with the 6Degree timing retard ping badly, the one programmed for 91 octane gas (9 degree) works better but pings as i am getting on the gas between 3 to 4K RPM. I have stock plugs, k&n, smooth tubes, belanger headers, random tech cats, b&b exhaust, t&d rockers. need some advice on what the problem could be.
Does Roe say the plugs need to be gapped or changed(colder)? The Vec II is a piggyback, so you might check your wiring. Are your connections soldered? Also make sure the MAF and O2 sensors are good. Is the VecII mounted in the cabin where it should be? The only other thing I can think of is your stock computer may not have adjusted to the changes yet. I don't have a s/c on my GTS, but I've had many other modded FI cars and these are usually the culprits.

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What kind of gas are you running? Octane, alcohol content, brand??? Ditto on logging your AFR.
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Does Roe say the plugs need to be gapped or changed(colder)? The Vec II is a piggyback, so you might check your wiring. Are your connections soldered? Also make sure the MAF and O2 sensors are good. Is the VecII mounted in the cabin where it should be? The only other thing I can think of is your stock computer may not have adjusted to the changes yet. I don't have a s/c on my GTS, but I've had many other modded FI cars and these are usually the culprits.

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The vec II doesn't need to be mounted in the cab...and the PCM fuel tables are not being used during open loop, so adaptives do not play a part.

I would however change your plugs...I use the NGK BKR7E. If that is too cold for you, Use the BKR6E

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I agree with V10Kingsnake, call Sean @ Roe's. Have the serial #'s on the bottom of the Vec box when you call him.

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What kind of gas are you running? Octane, alcohol content, brand??? Ditto on logging your AFR.
+1, sounds like you have a full tank of gass thats been sitting for 5 years
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I have stock plugs need some advice on what the problem could be.


Start with the colder plugs that Sean ships with the blower kit.

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Old May 3rd, 2007, 05:29 PM   #10
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Start with the colder plugs that Sean ships with the blower kit.

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call roe or any trained roe blower installer before you fuck up your car.
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Also reset PCM so it relearns, I installed my Roe and had all types of issues at first with detonation. Reset PCM, ditto on soldering all connections and make sure you are only running Premium fuel. Hopefully you changed to the lower stat and burped the system well. Post water temp too, cause if it is high, this will just make a problem worse. Once you get this running, you will be happy I'm sure but be careful not to drive on it and get help here or from Sean Roe ASAP before we have to ship you a bucket for your engine parts.
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Roe Superchargers comes with colds plugs install them and look for changes ! also call Sean and he will guide you for sure. Goodluck
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I used fresh union 76 92 octane gas and some 104 octane booster and still no luck
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I used fresh union 76 92 octane gas and some 104 octane booster and still no luck
are you still using stock plugs
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probably, but after he grenades his motor then might he listen to the crowd here.
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probably, but after he grenades his motor then might he listen to the crowd here.
I have to agree with ya on that

Put some cooler plugs in there (NGK BKR7E), get a wideband, and log it!! If your detonating while in boost, your playing with fire ..heheh no pun intended

Pull back some timing, and check your a/f's...

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