I would guess the car won't be sitting on the dyno shooting for numbers. Sal goes to the track for numbers. I can't wait to see his numbers.
Last time at ATCO when I was there with you and Heff I think you guys were running 20 or 25 lbs of boost to get that 8.28. With this car running similiar boost levels or more, with good 60ft and 1/8 I would not be suprized to see low 7.70's or 7.60's-50's.
Good job guys.
I would guess the car won't be sitting on the dyno shooting for numbers. Sal goes to the track for numbers. I can't wait to see his numbers.
Thank you Chad. That sums it up nicely.
Again, I thank everyone for the great comments. It's nice to see the car appreciated after the tremendous amount of talent and time that has been spent building this car.
I built this car to race. The dyno is the tool I used to tune the car and make sure the car is responding as it should. For those requesting dyno sheets, I honestly did not print them out as I obtained the information I needed from the data logs and graphs and left it at that.
I am a very hands on person with my cars and have done a good bit of the work myself from the mechanicals to the electronics. All the wiring, sensors, and AEM tuning has been solely done by myself along with other work while I've spent numerous late nights at Drummond's shop.
Do I plan to drive this car? Absolutely. But in the beginning, Steve Drummond will shake the car down as I do not hold the experience as of yet to handle a car of this nature. He is better suited to analyze the behavior of the chassis in the early stages of testing.
I only hope we are able to accomplish some track numbers based on what the appearance of the car has already stated! I'm sure we'll have gremlins, but that's part of the game.
__________________ '99 Viper GTS
Full Weight - IRS - Drag Radial
Built by Drummond Race Cars
Turbo System by Heffner Performance / Turbo People
Best ET: 7.52 Best MPH: 190.19mph on DR's
Last time at ATCO when I was there with you and Heff I think you guys were running 20 or 25 lbs of boost to get that 8.28. With this car running similiar boost levels or more, with good 60ft and 1/8 I would not be suprized to see low 7.70's or 7.60's-50's.
Good job guys.
I've been reading around here for a while and your incessant stupidity finally pushed me over the edge to post.
Have you ever raced anything faster than a bigwheel? Really. Because you have ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA what it takes to drop tenths on a deep 8 second car, let alone half a second.
What the FUCK makes you think that because he has a slightly larger hotside and a PG that it's going to drop a minimum .6?
Just end yourself, seriously. And stfu with your "predictions" until you own/drive something that will run quicker than a 11 sec 1/8th.
I'll go on record saying you won't see anyone bust under a 7.9x until they sack up with a solid axle and some real 88's. ala T6 size.
I've been reading around here for a while and your incessant stupidity finally pushed me over the edge to post.
Have you ever raced anything faster than a bigwheel? Really. Because you have ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA what it takes to drop tenths on a deep 8 second car, let alone half a second.
What the FUCK makes you think that because he has a slightly larger hotside and a PG that it's going to drop a minimum .6?
Just end yourself, seriously. And stfu with your "predictions" until you own/drive something that will run quicker than a 11 sec 1/8th.
I'll go on record saying you won't see anyone bust under a 7.9x until they sack up with a solid axle and some real 88's. ala T6 size.
I've been reading around here for a while and your incessant stupidity finally pushed me over the edge to post.
Have you ever raced anything faster than a bigwheel? Really. Because you have ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA what it takes to drop tenths on a deep 8 second car, let alone half a second.
What the FUCK makes you think that because he has a slightly larger hotside and a PG that it's going to drop a minimum .6?....
I'll go on record saying you won't see anyone bust under a 7.9x until they sack up with a solid axle and some real 88's. ala T6 size.
My money says it happens in 07'.
Yeah no kidding huh, nice first post there my friend. So are you another "hired yapper" or are you actually speaking for yourself? Anyways thank you so much for telling me what I know and what I should learn I feel much better now. All I was doing is crunching a few numbers and comparing it to what UGR ran with Garth's 76 6 speed car. 7.98@183
I mean stop and THINK about this for a second, do you really think Sal spent all this time, money and effort for a fully built/88 car to run what a 76 6 speed car can? Ohh yeah thats right their "fake 88's" so I guess they dont count as much and poor Sal will have to settle for mid to low 7.90's. Forgive me for having high hopes for what the car can do on HIGH BOOST with a good track and driver. You make it sound like i'm saying the car will casually run those times on mid boost, NO not in the least. I meant in near perfect conditions with a solid launch ect... or did you get so worked up over my post you missed all that? And next time you post, whoever you are try being more constructive instead of a bunch of heated low ball remarks, Thanks!
V4C
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Yeah no kidding huh, nice first post there my friend. So are you another "hired yapper" or are you actually speaking for yourself? Anyways thank you so much for telling me what I know and what I should learn I feel much better now. All I was doing is crunching a few numbers and comparing it to what UGR ran with Garth's 76 6 speed car. 7.98@183
I mean stop and THINK about this for a second, do you really think Sal spent all this time, money and effort for a fully built/88 car to run what a 76 6 speed car can? Ohh yeah thats right their "fake 88's" so I guess they dont count as much and poor Sal will have to settle for mid to low 7.90's. Forgive me for having high hopes for what the car can do on HIGH BOOST with a good track and driver. You make it sound like i'm saying the car will casually run those times on mid boost, NO not in the least. I meant in near perfect conditions with a solid launch ect... or did you get so worked up over my post you missed all that? And next time you post, whoever you are try being more constructive instead of a bunch of heated low ball remarks, Thanks!
V4C
First of all, we're not friends. I don't know you and certainly wouldn't want you too close for fear your idiocy might be contagious.
Your "number crunching" looks like a retarded 3yr old pounding on a casio calculator watch with his fists.
I have no idea what he built this car to do, but when he built it the bar wasn't set nearly as high. Did he account for this, or have anywhere near the track time/testing UR has? I doubt it.
Garths car running that 7.98 was damn near perfection and I honestly don't think an auto car will go much, if any faster. It sure looks like we've hit the limit on what an IRS car will pull in the 60', so from there on out it's just HP...
Do you have even the slightest idea what separates a PT88 from a 76GTS? Did you know they use essentially THE SAME compressor cover. Bigger wheel doesn't always = more power potential.
Like I said, compare A REAL 88 (aka 47-88) to a PT and you might see some power, but a 76gts to PT88 isn't going to accomplish a whole lot other than reducing backpressure on the hot side. But I'm sure you knew that
Also, these cars 60ft pathetically slow for the times they run, a distinct disadvantage to the IRS. Even if he got down to a 1.25 60ft and ran the same mph as Garths it wouldn't break him out of the 7.9's... Yet you think he's going to bust off a 7.7 minimum? So you're saying his car will not only out power Garths by 500hp, but will be able to hook it up? Last I recall Garths car was on the verge of blowing the tires off going through 4th gear, so I don't see that happening. And a glide will out-mph a 6spd, HA! good luck with that.
Oh and all this "mid/low/high" boost talk is retarded. That car (any viper) will have to be on kill to come near a 7, nobody insinuated anything different, stop trying to divert the attention away from your inept claims.
I don't know where you're coming up with these numbers but it's oh so apparent you have ZERO experience racing anything, let alone an 8 sec car. (and no waxing Norm's balls doesn't count as racing, or even doing anything constructive)
Just stop, Jason said you're clueless and thats being generous. You're fucking delusional to anyone who has any real life experience.
First of all, we're not friends. I don't know you and certainly wouldn't want you too close for fear your idiocy might be contagious.
Your "number crunching" looks like a retarded 3yr old pounding on a casio calculator watch with his fists.
I have no idea what he built this car to do, but when he built it the bar wasn't set nearly as high. Did he account for this, or have anywhere near the track time/testing UR has? I doubt it.
Garths car running that 7.98 was damn near perfection and I honestly don't think an auto car will go much, if any faster. It sure looks like we've hit the limit on what an IRS car will pull in the 60', so from there on out it's just HP...
Do you have even the slightest idea what separates a PT88 from a 76GTS? Did you know they use essentially THE SAME compressor cover. Bigger wheel doesn't always = more power potential.
Like I said, compare A REAL 88 (aka 47-88) to a PT and you might see some power, but a 76gts to PT88 isn't going to accomplish a whole lot other than reducing backpressure on the hot side. But I'm sure you knew that
Also, these cars 60ft pathetically slow for the times they run, a distinct disadvantage to the IRS. Even if he got down to a 1.25 60ft and ran the same mph as Garths it wouldn't break him out of the 7.9's... Yet you think he's going to bust off a 7.7 minimum? So you're saying his car will not only out power Garths by 500hp, but will be able to hook it up? Last I recall Garths car was on the verge of blowing the tires off going through 4th gear, so I don't see that happening. And a glide will out-mph a 6spd, HA! good luck with that.
Oh and all this "mid/low/high" boost talk is retarded. That car (any viper) will have to be on kill to come near a 7, nobody insinuated anything different, stop trying to divert the attention away from your inept claims.
I don't know where you're coming up with these numbers but it's oh so apparent you have ZERO experience racing anything, let alone an 8 sec car. (and no waxing Norm's balls doesn't count as racing, or even doing anything constructive)
Just stop, Jason said you're clueless and thats being generous. You're f#cking delusional to anyone who has any real life experience.
Vten is that you? Seriously do you list to yourself when you post? In the 3 posts you have, it's 30% info and 70% hate. Not that you dont know about turbo's it's clear you do so come down off of your rage for a few minutes and say what you really know. Once again for the third time, yes the car would have to be set on "kill" with near perfect conditions for both track and driver to get near or on those times. Speaking of the 7.98 thread someone, I believe from SVS made a comment about throwing in a 2 speed to get a time in the 7.50's. Oh that right it's ok for others to say times like that but for me it's different. Anyways yes i know their not 47-88's and what the difference is, my point is that with this engine/TT/tranny combo should still be enough to accomplish better times with the car. I was being more optimistic and think, again under the right conditions some of those times are possible. Reminds me of a few years ago when people were posting like you do about how All Motor would NEVER touch mid 9's Ooops
But thanks again for tell me what I know and what I dont.
Oh yeah I know what Jason thinks but who cares, we talked about it in FL. if he still wants to think that then it's up to him, I have my own things to take care of.