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Old December 20th, 2006, 01:53 PM   #21
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Exactly. I have friends that are car dealers/wholesalers, and I see the shit they put up with on a daily basis.

So, if Katz buys a car for short money and sells it for retail, what is wrong with that?

Sounds to me like his asking price isn't out of the park for a clean, low mileage, well documented B/W.
WOW. I actually agree with this guy.

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I hope you guys won't think less of me for doing so but today I did a terrible thing. A customer called me and expressed that he was in need of a part for his Viper. I know that I should have just told him to call the manufacturer and buy it directly at my discounted price but I didn't. I ordered it from the manufacturer myself and then shipped it to the customer but not before tacking on a 20% markup. To top it off this is not the first time that I have committed this heinous crime, I've probably done it thousands of times and you know what? I'll do it again if given the chance. To top it off I do this for my own selfish reasons like having to feed my family, pay bills and such. I hope you guys will find it in your hearts to forgive me for this.

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Old December 20th, 2006, 01:59 PM   #23
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Wait just a minute.

Does this mean that Javo is going to mark up my Tempur Pedic Celebrity mattress too?

Dayum. I thought we were buddies and all.
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Old December 20th, 2006, 02:03 PM   #24
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I hope you guys won't think less of me for doing so but today I did a terrible thing. A customer called me and expressed that he was in need of a part for his Viper. I know that I should have just told him to call the manufacturer and buy it directly at my discounted price bit I didn't. I ordered it from the manufacturer myself and then shipped it to the customer but not before tacking on a 20% markup. To top it off this is not the first time that I have committed this heinous crime, I've probably done it thousands of times and you know what? I'll do it again if given the chance. To top it off I do this for my own selfish reasons like having to feed my family, pay bills and such. I hope you guys will find it in your hearts to forgive me for this.
You should be ashamed of yourself Jason, and here we all invisioned you as giving TT setups to the needy. All along your just another capitalistic pig. :bigsmile:
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I hope you guys won't think less of me for doing so but today I did a terrible thing. A customer called me and expressed that he was in need of a part for his Viper. I know that I should have just told him to call the manufacturer and buy it directly at my discounted price bit I didn't. I ordered it from the manufacturer myself and then shipped it to the customer but not before tacking on a 20% markup. To top it off this is not the first time that I have committed this heinous crime, I've probably done it thousands of times and you know what? I'll do it again if given the chance. To top it off I do this for my own selfish reasons like having to feed my family, pay bills and such. I hope you guys will find it in your hearts to forgive me for this.


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Old December 20th, 2006, 02:07 PM   #26
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As ashamed as I am to admit it I will anyhow. OK here goes. You remember that turbo system that I gave you pricing on? If you were to buy it.............there was actually profit in that for me. Man I feel better for getting that off of my chest.
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Positive Rep for you sir, that was funny. we will chat soon.
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Old December 20th, 2006, 02:55 PM   #28
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As far as Evil's "Hebrew Pricing" comment about my religion you can go Fuck yourself.
The quote actually came from another alley Jew, I just thought it was funny and remembered it. As far as going and fucking myself, is that because I hit a nerve, or because you want to sell me some marked up K-Y??

I think Redsled's right on the money, even if others here don't. Yeah it's supply and demand, business, capitalism, and all that, but there is a difference between mark up to cover cost, making a profit, and then price gouging. I find it hard to believe you spent $7k, and some odd dollars, to get that car presentable enough for resale. If it's strictly a business deal and you're looking to make a buck say so, don't skirt the issue with a "feeding my family" defense. It's the cornerstone of all Nigerian scammer excuses and no one with half a brain buys it anyways when you're product is $10k over market...
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Actually I think mid 50's is right on the money for a clean 96. Are you alleging that it should be more like mid 40's? Because that sounds low to me. Bernie is a supporting vendor of this site. all of his Vipers are accurately represented and of course you don't have to buy it if you don't want to so exactly what is your problem?
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Actually I think mid 50's is right on the money for a clean 96. Are you alleging that it should be more like mid 40's? Because that sounds low to me. Bernie is a supporting vendor of this site. all of his Vipers are accurately represented and of course you don't have to buy it if you don't want to so exactly what is your problem?
Maybe someone pissed in his cheerios. ( I always wanted to say that, sorry Evil)
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Old December 20th, 2006, 03:23 PM   #31
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As ashamed as I am to admit it I will anyhow. OK here goes. You remember that turbo system that I gave you pricing on? If you were to buy it.............there was actually profit in that for me. Man I feel better for getting that off of my chest.
Jason-
Speaking of turbo systems (and totally off topic) I raced that FordGT you put the turbo in from a roll last weekend (Long Island) on a flat stretch of road in my stock GTS. That car is pure evil. He put ten car lengths on me in about 3 seconds from a 80MPH role....fastest car I have ever seen on the street.

Now back to the debate....
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Redsled, It's NONE of your business how much money I spend on cars. And I don't give a shit how much you spent on your GTS. My guess would be that you offered Gerald a bit more than he asked for his GTS, and he said NO Thanks.

It's pretty funny, those that OWN businesses see the added costs. And those that are looking for deals from businesses DON'T.

Jason Heffner, are you saying you made a profit everytime I sent my GTS to you for upgrades! Geez....can I have some money back!?
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Redsled, It's NONE of your business how much money I spend on cars. And I don't give a shit how much you spent on your GTS. My guess would be that you offered Gerald a bit more than he asked for his GTS, and he said NO Thanks.

It's pretty funny, those that OWN businesses see the added costs. And those that are looking for deals from businesses DON'T.

Jason Heffner, are you saying you made a profit everytime I sent my GTS to you for upgrades! Geez....can I have some money back!?
No Casey you can't, he promised it to me as a bonus for sending him my GTS. What a great guy that Heffner is.
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The quote actually came from another alley Jew, I just thought it was funny and remembered it. As far as going and fucking myself, is that because I hit a nerve, or because you want to sell me some marked up K-Y??

I think Redsled's right on the money, even if others here don't. Yeah it's supply and demand, business, capitalism, and all that, but there is a difference between mark up to cover cost, making a profit, and then price gouging. I find it hard to believe you spent $7k, and some odd dollars, to get that car presentable enough for resale. If it's strictly a business deal and you're looking to make a buck say so, don't skirt the issue with a "feeding my family" defense. It's the cornerstone of all Nigerian scammer excuses and no one with half a brain buys it anyways when you're product is $10k over market...
Evil, you were wrong going at Bernie's Religion that's obvious. IMO You should appologize like a man and move on.

Once again, it's NONE of your business either, in regards to how much money the car was sold to Bernie for, nor the additional costs that Bernie incures with his expenses to run his business.

Finally, that car is NOT $10k over market. If it was, Redsled would not be acting like a sore loser.

I've got a couple free hours to spend today, I think I will head to some Car dealers and let them know they should only mark up a car 10%.
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No Casey you can't, he promised it to me as a bonus for sending him my GTS. What a great guy that Heffner is.

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Calling a man a thief for selling/sold a quality product for more than he purchased it for?

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Actually I think mid 50's is right on the money for a clean 96. Are you alleging that it should be more like mid 40's? Because that sounds low to me. Bernie is a supporting vendor of this site. all of his Vipers are accurately represented and of course you don't have to buy it if you don't want to so exactly what is your problem?
Mid 40's is pretty much what I've been seeing them go for. Not that it matters since it's only worth what someone is willing to pay and apparently the car is sold, so someone was willing to pay. As far as being a supporting vendor, that neither means shit to me or is a valid defense for anything really. Last I heard Hennessey was a supporting vendor and he has quite the cult following at the complaint department. All that it means to me is that you have enough money to buy a title on a message board, it doesn't bolster you to rock star status, at least not in my book. My problem, as you put it, is the sly way in which he tried to wiggle out of Redsled's initial question. Other than that I could really give less of a shit one way or the other.
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Calling a man a thief for selling/sold a quality product for more than he purchased it for?

OH THE HUMANITY!
I didn't see anyone call anyone else a "thief."

Let's recap shall we...

BJ posts car for sale @ $55kish.
Redsled calls him out, asking if said car was the same purchased for $47.5.
BJ replies, but doesn't really answer the question.
People jump on Redsled's ass.
I stick up for Redsled.
People jump on my ass.
The end.

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