sweet. Id love to see what a little twin kit with a stock motor and fuel system will do against the built motor, single turbo viper with the fuel system. Should be interesting!
Also, why lower the compression on the motor? How big does he plan on taking it? The stock motor/fuel system is good to at least 800rwhp, Ive seen it in person. How big does he want to go with the rear mount turbo? How far can he go?
We will be out tomorrow. My cell is 630-768-0761, I hope to hear from you guys. Ill be expecting a call
ive seen this 100 times. if you guys win... its : "our stock engine stock fuel car beat your built engine car with fuel system and Motec coil-on-plug". If the tooths car wins its : "well of course he won, he had a built motor and fuel system with Motec - for all that $$$ it should have won!".
As for this whole stock fuel system thing.... so you squeezed 800rwhp out of a stock fuel system by shoving 18 volts down its throat... that is not impressive to anyone, that is gay. seriously no offense your my buddy, but who ISNT capable of running a boost a pump?? its childs play man, i think they install those at Best Buy.
You see, I could make my car lighter by gutting it out, removing the stereo, etc. Or I can make it lighter by buying lighter wheels and brake rotors. Yea, you can make more power by turning up the boost... or you could do a cam and headwork.
So to make 800 on a stock pump doesnt really mean anything to anyone. Go run it at 24 volts and make 1000hp... great engineering? no
so i am sure you see my point there... and I hope I didnt come off wrong. Its not like I would run around bashing the car because its running that boost-a-pump... I am just saying that I would think twice before I went and had it chrome dipped.
Anyhow - The Z should fire up this weekend, the final parts have been coming in. I am definatly down for some cruising / racing.
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ive seen this 100 times. if you guys win... its : "our stock engine stock fuel car beat your built engine car with fuel system and Motec coil-on-plug". If the tooths car wins its : "well of course he won, he had a built motor and fuel system with Motec - for all that $$$ it should have won!".
As for this whole stock fuel system thing.... so you squeezed 800rwhp out of a stock fuel system by shoving 18 volts down its throat... that is not impressive to anyone, that is gay. seriously no offense your my buddy, but who ISNT capable of running a boost a pump?? its childs play man, i think they install those at Best Buy.
You see, I could make my car lighter by gutting it out, removing the stereo, etc. Or I can make it lighter by buying lighter wheels and brake rotors. Yea, you can make more power by turning up the boost... or you could do a cam and headwork.
So to make 800 on a stock pump doesnt really mean anything to anyone. Go run it at 24 volts and make 1000hp... great engineering? no
so i am sure you see my point there... and I hope I didnt come off wrong. Its not like I would run around bashing the car because its running that boost-a-pump... I am just saying that I would think twice before I went and had it chrome dipped.
Anyhow - The Z should fire up this weekend, the final parts have been coming in. I am definatly down for some cruising / racing.
Id have to check the logs on the aem, I dont think anything was abnormal about the voltage. Point about having 800rwhp with stock fuel is not everyone can afford to have TT's. Now more people can!
I cant wait to see your 350 done bro. It will be good to get back into the racing scene
Id have to check the logs on the aem, I dont think anything was abnormal about the voltage. Point about having 800rwhp with stock fuel is not everyone can afford to have TT's. Now more people can!
I cant wait to see your 350 done bro. It will be good to get back into the racing scene
Looks like there's fuel rails on the red and white Viper? Hows that a stock fuel system?
If you have rails did you also change the injectors? That's not what anyone would consider a stock fuel system
The Beauty of the CPE TT package is that you're not just getting the TT, you also get the pump, rails and the TT setup. CPE's TTs are modular to the customer's needs. The packages can include the Vec II or the AEM (<--preferred.) I can't imagine selling a system where you don't include the above!
Apologies for the hijack,
Jay K.
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Congrats Ron, for doing something completely different. Building something that no one else is even coming close trying just shows that you are always looking further ahead than most. Nice job.
Thanks
Congrats on your innovative accomplishments as well
The Beauty of the CPE TT package is that you're not just getting the TT, you also get the pump, rails and the TT setup. CPE's TTs are modular to the customer's needs. The packages can include the Vec II or the AEM (<--preferred.) I can't imagine selling a system where you don't include the above!
Apologies for the hijack,
Jay K.
Did you copy that off the side panel of a box of CPE enhanced breakfast cereal?
Either way... i think every single tuner here has built cars with "packages" that include turbo system, engine management, and fuel supply. Big deal. Did you know that the engine will just blow up if you DIDNT do engine management and fuel system work? Its kind of a requirement, and I think you will find every TT Viper to have such modifications.
Did you copy that off the side panel of a box of CPE enhanced breakfast cereal?
Either way... i think every single tuner here has built cars with "packages" that include turbo system, engine management, and fuel supply. Big deal. Did you know that the engine will just blow up if you DIDNT do engine management and fuel system work? Its kind of a requirement, and I think you will find every TT Viper to have such modifications.
We've met before but I DO apologize, I forgot your name. I put the above info for explanatory purposes. You DID notice the "Apologies for the Hijack" mention?
svs, what is meant by stock fuel system is its not the $140000 upgraded fuel system, its rather simplistic and affordable.
I wasnt trying to discredit anything, I was only curious on why the motor was built on this car for such small power. Now if the plans are to take the 76mm turbo or whatever you have back there and upgrade it to something that will out power a stock motord viper then its understandable. Whats the estimated rwhp you are shooting for with this combo?
svs, what is meant by stock fuel system is its not the $140000 upgraded fuel system, its rather simplistic and affordable.
I wasnt trying to discredit anything, I was only curious on why the motor was built on this car for such small power. Now if the plans are to take the 76mm turbo or whatever you have back there and upgrade it to something that will out power a stock motord viper then its understandable. Whats the estimated rwhp you are shooting for with this combo?
price it out... the injectors and rails are the most expensive parts.
hey jr. what is the difference with the coil on plug on the tooth's car compared to the direct coil on plug ignition system that is on my car?
The tooths coil on plug ignition system uses inductive coils and offers up twice the spark over stock and can be installed on any Viper. A shorter plug wire from the coil means less resistance traveling to the spark plug. Longer wires (stock) next to each other have more of a chance to induce voltage to another wire and also more prone to get burned. A coil on plug system has a much greater % for getting the spark delivered and keeping it delivered.
Your coil on plug system is a sequential capacitive discharge ignition system using CDI coils. Compared to the tooths you basically have more volts (capacity) stored behind your coils waiting to deliver the spark. Your ignition system can deliver lightning at a more consistent rate over higher loads and under greater boost, especially when running harder to burn fuels.
A coil on plug system doesn't increase the power of your engine. It does increase the level of maintaining consistent full power from your engine by making sure the spark is stronger and more readily delivered.
Consider the tooths a stage 1 coil on plug system for maintaining above average power and handling medium to high levels of boost while burning fuel.
Consider yours a Stage 2 coil on plug system that will deliver lightning bolts out of Thors hammer that will ignite fuel under much higher rpm and boost pressures.
talk about BS... I didnt get a call last night for you guys to bring the car out.... who's shooting the bs here? We arent bsing anything, we say stock fuel system with cpe rails, injectors and bap. Not your fancy fuel systems that cost a shitload of money
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