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Old June 25th, 2006, 02:58 AM   #1
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JH and his TT Venom wants to run a Bugatti Veyron

http://driving.timesonline.co.uk/art...223167,00.html
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Old June 25th, 2006, 03:06 AM   #2
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HAHA... that is awesome. I bet, barring a break down, that the Venom TT takes it out if they actually do a comparison.
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Old June 25th, 2006, 03:06 AM   #3
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Old June 25th, 2006, 03:22 AM   #4
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Boy, it's amazing how far having a magazine article or two will take some guys to get to do something like that!

I get first dibs on racing the winner!

John, you have my #, let me know when you are ready!

P.S. call me, I lost your # when my phone broke! Paolo
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Old June 25th, 2006, 08:22 AM   #5
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Which car costs less?


John H knows why I ask this.




You can get 2 S7s for the price of 1 Bug



Great press if the Hennessey TT can pull it off......"You can do it"



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Old June 25th, 2006, 08:30 AM   #6
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Doesn't seem fair for the Bug but certainly great for the Old Man Marketing Machine.
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Old June 25th, 2006, 08:37 AM   #7
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I think beating a V would be harder than you think. Down low, that thing is going to launch like a bat out of hell. Up top (where weight is no longer that much of an issue) I would be willing to bet they have REALLY done their homework with the aerodynamics. I think that car is more of a handful than the 1000hp/4000lbs numbers suggests. I would love to see how they stack up.
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Old June 25th, 2006, 10:16 AM   #8
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I was going to wait for a Viper-driving regular to say it before I did... I honestly feel that IF the Bugatti were to lose, it'd be an insanely close race.

Plain and simple, it was built to be the best on all levels... and with no exceptions, IS the best by quite a gap with very few cars coming close to competing -- and that includes modified cars.

For those that haven't looked up the numbers before speaking... they're astonishing: 0-30 mph in 1.5 seconds, 0-60 mph in 2.8 seconds, 30-50mph in 1.0 seconds, 70-100 mph in 2.0 seconds, 0-180 in <14 seconds (in comparison, the MB SLR does it in 28 seconds)... stopping is supposedly 252-0 mph in <10 seconds, etc, etc, etc

I’m not saying this race is impossible, but the Viper better bring everything it has and then some – Hopefully it’ll happen.
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Old June 25th, 2006, 12:15 PM   #9
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It would be great to see, but no upside to Bugatti for doing it at all so I don't see it happening.
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I like Gary think it will be more of a handful than people think............I would love to see my beloved Viper destroy those snobby exotic engineers and their baby I have no doubt in my mind that the viper will beat it 70-200 but IMO that Veyron is going to be one tough fish to fry come 200+
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I have no doubt in my mind that the viper will beat it 70-200 but IMO that Veyron is going to be one tough fish to fry come 200+
and does the Viper have the power to make up the ground it will lose 0-70??
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Old June 25th, 2006, 02:40 PM   #12
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A better test would be to do it twice, cause I have a feeling the veyron's clutch is only good for one shot at a no holds barred 0-200 takeoff.

So, JH, just "false start" or something after hitting 60 and see if the veyron has enough clutch left for the retry
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Old June 25th, 2006, 03:15 PM   #13
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the veyron runs 0-100 in mid 5's which is really incredible. i think from 100-200 that we can catch it and pass it. now from 200-250 who knows what would happen. i know we can get to 220 very quickly but then we have to grab 6th gear.

no veyron owner would want to find out what would happen as taking the chance of losing could bruise an ego big enough to afford a 1.4 mil car.

so its fun to talk about such comparisons but its not going to happen.

i would say that in an overall performance comparison that includes acceleration, braking, handling and some road course laps, i think we would beat the veyron overall. i just dont see a 4100 lb veyron being that great of a handling car. but i could be wrong.

wardo - as far as the s7 goes, it was really fun to give billy tally and his crew a nice kick in the ass last year at the Road & Track standing mile shootout. i know for a fact that the S7tt that they had there was making way more than the 750 hp that they advertise. i think that they were pretty surprised when we showed up and beat them by 5 mph and 15 car lengths in the mile.
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John, I sure would LOVE to see something like this happen, keep us all updated as to whether or not things change and this comes to fruition. As for the S7TT, it's my favorite car of all time, cuda, I envy you...
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A better test would be to do it twice, cause I have a feeling the veyron's clutch is only good for one shot at a no holds barred 0-200 takeoff.

So, JH, just "false start" or something after hitting 60 and see if the veyron has enough clutch left for the retry
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the veyron runs 0-100 in mid 5's which is really incredible. i think from 100-200 that we can catch it and pass it. now from 200-250 who knows what would happen. i know we can get to 220 very quickly but then we have to grab 6th gear.

no veyron owner would want to find out what would happen as taking the chance of losing could bruise an ego big enough to afford a 1.4 mil car.

so its fun to talk about such comparisons but its not going to happen.

i would say that in an overall performance comparison that includes acceleration, braking, handling and some road course laps, i think we would beat the veyron overall. i just dont see a 4100 lb veyron being that great of a handling car. but i could be wrong.

wardo - as far as the s7 goes, it was really fun to give billy tally and his crew a nice kick in the ass last year at the Road & Track standing mile shootout. i know for a fact that the S7tt that they had there was making way more than the 750 hp that they advertise. i think that they were pretty surprised when we showed up and beat them by 5 mph and 15 car lengths in the mile.

I agree that overall in every performance category the viper would win. In a top speed run though from 0-260 I think the Veyron would win
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wardo - as far as the s7 goes, it was really fun to give billy tally and his crew a nice kick in the ass last year at the Road & Track standing mile shootout. i know for a fact that the S7tt that they had there was making way more than the 750 hp that they advertise. i think that they were pretty surprised when we showed up and beat them by 5 mph and 15 car lengths in the mile.

Johnster.....If you come to Florida, I might take you up on that action. Maybe 1/2 to 3/4 mile.

If you are not going to chicken out on me, the only 2 rules is YOU must drive (not a hired gun) and your Viper must a 1000 hp or less no hidden nitrous.

I do not know what yours was or what theirs was, MINE is 750 hp at the crank.


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