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Old June 19th, 2006, 12:59 PM   #1
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about to offer $ on a viper.... need your help one last time... quick

about to put an offer in on a car. Sorry to keep making posts about this but it will be my first viper and Im getting excited...

its a 93 with 15500 miles on it. The whole car was repainted after a small collision that damaged the bumper(replaced with OEM).
The car comes with a clean carfax however.
This car is pretty much bone stock also.

what is it worth?
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Old June 19th, 2006, 01:05 PM   #2
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My $.02 on this. Why are you buying this car? If you just want to own a viper, then great. If you are planning on modifying the vehicle for performance, then I would suggest waiting until you can afford a Gen II/III.

Have you ever looked at comparison photos of the suspension and underbody of each Generation? They are startling. I will try and dig them up on the morgue and post them here.

My point is, unless you are stealing it or you really want a Gen I, make sure you know what you are getting so you don't regret it later.
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I rode in a roe blown gen 1 last night, it wasnt too shabby. I dont plan to mod and go all out in the car, but since the car was involved in a collision, it will be considerably less money, but retaining a clean title.

Im just looking to get into a viper for now, I hate not having a fast car to drive... the lexus just doesnt cut it now that the mustang is gone.

When Im ready for TT's, Ill sell the gen1 and get a gen2, but I need something for now to hold me over I guess is what Im trying to say
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Old June 19th, 2006, 01:11 PM   #4
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Old June 19th, 2006, 01:12 PM   #5
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Nothing wrong with a Gen I in my book, just as much fun as the GTS and the Gen II RT-10's.

I agree with your analogy about it being worth less since it was in an accident. I would think the car with those miles in perfect condition and never wrecked would be worth around $32 K.

I would offer him $27 K or $28K for it, maybe less, but I definitely would not pay more than $28K for it. I guess it will also depend on, does it have air? Does it come with Hard Top / Hard windows? Stock wheels or any other mods.

Also for $8 I would do an experian car check on it, they seem to pick up better history than carfax in my opinion.
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Old June 19th, 2006, 01:19 PM   #7
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it has ac but it comes with SOFT top and windows, not hard
it has aftermarket wheels, smooth tubes and exhaust, thats it

the car was repainted a different color after the accident
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stupid question but same trans right?
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Old June 19th, 2006, 01:25 PM   #10
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All T56, I think some running changes and perhaps supplier swaps.
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Much difference underneath between a 2 and 3?
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the car was repainted a different color after the accident
I'd pass on that fact alone.

That is, unless it was a paint job along the lines of Remster's.........
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Old June 19th, 2006, 01:28 PM   #13
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Much difference underneath between a 2 and 3?
Chad, I don't think there is much difference apparent to the naked eye (same basic layout, cast aluminum arms), but from what I understand the changes are in the geometry, making the Gen III more rigid and beter handling.
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thanks a lot kenny, I appreciate it!

the car looks great though, its painted yellow ($8,000 with rec.)
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Eric,
You know better than anyone, don't inch into this. I'd wait for a Gen 2. Gen one's have a inferior quality to the Gen 2's (and thats not saying a lot for the gen 1's since the interior of the Gen 2's is nothing great).

From Rolling around in a Gen 1 and now many Gen 2's, especially in the crazy chi-town weather you will wish you had windows all the time. Need them a lot at night, especially early/late in the seasons.

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thanks a lot kenny, I appreciate it!

the car looks great though, its painted yellow ($8,000 with rec.)
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tom, I was in marty's supercharged gen 1 sunday night.... it was raining and the windows werent in... that was a great time, lol
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My $.02 on this. Why are you buying this car? If you just want to own a viper, then great. If you are planning on modifying the vehicle for performance, then I would suggest waiting until you can afford a Gen II/III.

Have you ever looked at comparison photos of the suspension and underbody of each Generation? They are startling. I will try and dig them up on the morgue and post them here.

My point is, unless you are stealing it or you really want a Gen I, make sure you know what you are getting so you don't regret it later.

Whats wrong with a Gen I? I love my 93 with 9K miles on it. Shes in pristine shape and drives, handles just great. ITs also more of a piece of history, and thats what I wanted.
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i see no problem with a gen1 and damage if i dont have to pay top dollar for it.

get it, mod it, enjoy it !!!

im saying 25K
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Eric,

Have you dried out yet?? I forgot to through the windows in the car before we went it, that would have kept us much a little more dry. It is only the second time the car has been in the rain. I also love my Gen 1. I have not had any quality issues with the car(other than head gaskets). I prefer the look of the smooth hood instead of the naca duct. The gen 1 is the car that I fell in love with, so it is the one that I bought. Not to say a Gen II is not in my future, but I certainly cannot knock my Gen I.
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