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Old November 9th, 2005, 07:07 AM   #1
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Ok guys,

I posted over a week ago about a ROE Supercharged GTS I was looking into buying. Well, after establishing a deal, and agreeing on a price, the day I was to transfer the money to pay for the vehicle, the seller decided to sell it to another buyer who offered more money. Gotta love the lack of ethics in the world! I got an email that said "sorry bout that."

Well, since then I found myself another serious prospect. This time, it is a built engine N/A (heads cam, etc), but also has a 200 shot NX kit if I'm not mistaken. Now, I have absolutely no knowledge about the reliability and saftey of of running nitrous, so I was hoping to get some opinions here. Is this something that is going to kill the reliability of the vehicle? Am I going to have to worry about breaking something every time I use it? I would probably only use the stuff once every couple of weeks knowing the way I drive. Thoughts?Opinions? Funny jokes??
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Old November 9th, 2005, 08:20 AM   #2
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nitrous likes to go boom plus getting a boottle re-filled all the time is a pain in the ass. I wouldn't want a bottle of that shit in my rear hatch in case of a rear-end accident.
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Old November 9th, 2005, 08:24 AM   #3
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I'm not too worried about the refills, as I wouldn't use it much anyways. But I think you made a good point about getting rear-ended with a bottle in the trunk. Hmmm, hadn't thought of that.
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nitrous likes to go boom plus getting a boottle re-filled all the time is a pain in the ass. I wouldn't want a bottle of that shit in my rear hatch in case of a rear-end accident.
If you got hit hard enough to cause a bottle to break, most likely your gas tank would also rupture, which would cause a far greater potential problem.
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Old November 9th, 2005, 08:56 AM   #5
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If you got hit hard enough to cause a bottle to break, most likely your gas tank would also rupture, which would cause a far greater potential problem.
Not really. The tank on a GTS is pretty well protected where it is. With all the idiots on the road I wouldn't want to further lesson my chances of carrying around an explosive material in my car.

Nitrous is for idiots in mustangs not 80K sports cars.
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Old November 9th, 2005, 09:10 AM   #6
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If the car is going to be sprayed at the track only (as it should), it isn't an issue.

And nitrous oxide is not explosive. However, when mixed with air, yes it is. Just thought I would clarify that, as it sounds to me like you have seen "The Fast And The Furious" too many times.
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Craig I'd have to disagree that nitrous is just for idiots in Mustangs! That's an awful broad, and stereotypical statement to make. I've seen this same setup run high 9's in the quarter. I'm by no means a drag racer, but I do plan to spend some time at the track this coming season, and look forward to having fun in a rather fast machine. If that combo is heads/cam/nitrous, or FI, who cares? The only thing I was personally concerned about, was durability and wear and tear on the engine, as I have heard rumors that nitrous can be rough on the engine. Thanks for the replies guys!
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If the car is going to be sprayed at the track only (as it should), it isn't an issue.

And nitrous oxide is not explosive. However, when mixed with air, yes it is. Just thought I would clarify that, as it sounds to me like you have seen "The Fast And The Furious" too many times.
Umm no. Car in accident + ruptured nitrous tank + any ignition source = boom.
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Old November 9th, 2005, 10:32 AM   #9
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Craig I'd have to disagree that nitrous is just for idiots in Mustangs! That's an awful broad, and stereotypical statement to make. I've seen this same setup run high 9's in the quarter. I'm by no means a drag racer, but I do plan to spend some time at the track this coming season, and look forward to having fun in a rather fast machine. If that combo is heads/cam/nitrous, or FI, who cares? The only thing I was personally concerned about, was durability and wear and tear on the engine, as I have heard rumors that nitrous can be rough on the engine. Thanks for the replies guys!
I associate nitrous as being the cheap way to make power. Why would anyone want to spend money on something that is such a pain in the ass to maintain?


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There's nothing challenging about slapping a bottle in, running some lines, popping on a 250-300 shot jet and going fast. That's like fucking a drunk girl. No challenge. Spend the time and money to set up a properly done FI car and that's impressive.
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Old November 9th, 2005, 10:35 AM   #10
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It is it Trey's old Venom 650R that is currently in Arizona, it's a great car.
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Umm no. Car in accident + ruptured nitrous tank + any ignition source = boom.
I'm just not seeing your logic behind being in a collision so huge that it would rupture a nitrous bottle, but things would be just peachy, if there was no bottle in the car. If you get into an accident with so much force that a nitrous bottle would rupture, you are pretty much dead regardless of whether there is a bottle in the car or not.
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Old November 9th, 2005, 10:38 AM   #12
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Umm no. Car in accident + ruptured nitrous tank + any ignition source = boom.
Nitrous is an accelerant, it won't be volatile unless there is fuel source. If the as tank ruptured too, then Houston, we have a problem :thumb:
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Yes Anthony, it is the Venom 650R. I am trying to get first crack at it! Craig, I can understand what you're saying in a situation where adding a shot of nitrous is all that went into the car. However, this is an engine that has had 25k worth of work put into it (650R package) to generate a lot of NA power. The nitrous, assuming it has been properly set up is simply the icing on the cake for me when I make my trips to the strip. If I'm going to the strip to race, chances are I've checked to make sure my bottle is full.If not, oh well, still have a high 10 second NA car to play with.
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Umm no. Car in accident + ruptured nitrous tank + any ignition source = boom.
I could be wrong, but I think even if a lot of N2O is present at one time (ex. bottle rupture), it still will not ignite without a fuel source. Maybe some of our nitrous gurus can answer that.

Now, the bottle rupturing can be quite destructive by itself, independent of any ignition.
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Nitrous is an accelerant, it won't be volatile unless there is fuel source. If the as tank ruptured too, then Houston, we have a problem :thumb:
Sorry Mike,

I overlooked this. :thumb:
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If you have a car that gets shot by Asian gangsters on motorcycles with machine guns, your nitrous (nawzzzzz) will explode with green flames and shoot your car in the air. Here's proof...

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Ok guys,

I posted over a week ago about a ROE Supercharged GTS I was looking into buying. Well, after establishing a deal, and agreeing on a price, the day I was to transfer the money to pay for the vehicle, the seller decided to sell it to another buyer who offered more money. Gotta love the lack of ethics in the world! I got an email that said "sorry bout that."

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If you're talking about the HMS 2001 over on the mOrgue(Trey's old car), you better jump on it right now! That car will be sold by lunch :thumb:
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Nitrous is completely inert on its own. It is only in the heat and compression of combustion that breaks it down into Nitrogen and Oxygen and therefore helps to catalyze a faster reaction. Nitrous will do damn near nothing in a fire unless it is hot enough to break the molecule apart and even then, it is no more serious than the Hydrogen in the Hindenburg (All the fire was the Rocket Fuel they covered the skin in), as it will dissipate very quickly.
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Not really. The tank on a GTS is pretty well protected where it is. With all the idiots on the road I wouldn't want to further lesson my chances of carrying around an explosive material in my car.

Nitrous is for idiots in mustangs not 80K sports cars.
Here is some info from the Mustang sites on Nitrous http://www.musclemustangfastfords.co...8mmff_nitrous/
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There's nothing challenging about slapping a bottle in, running some lines, popping on a 250-300 shot jet and going fast. That's like fucking a drunk girl. No challenge. Spend the time and money to set up a properly done FI car and that's impressive.
but there isnt any challange in giving a tuner 30-40k to put two turbos ain your car so you can go fast...its just another power adder...not cheap...or anything of the sort...
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