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Old June 24th, 2005, 08:26 PM   #1
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Bio diesil ?

Anyone have any experience with it ?? The fuel for trucks etc.
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Old June 24th, 2005, 08:33 PM   #2
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Bio Diesel - the fuel?
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Old June 24th, 2005, 08:36 PM   #3
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Yes the fuel.
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Old June 24th, 2005, 08:38 PM   #4
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nope...just asking...
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Old June 24th, 2005, 09:26 PM   #5
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Re: Bio diesil ?

I used some in my truck that was made at a site that I was working on. it was actually one of the strangest applications I have used my machinery on. We were reclaiming the solid pig manure for a company that then sent it to a centralized location. From there they converted the manure into methanol in a digester. They then added the methanol with cleaned cooking oil/grease. The byproduct was bio diesel. I went ahead and tried about 15 gallons in my 6.0L powerstroke to see how well it performed. I did not notice a decrease or increase in performance, or MPG.
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Shitty job, sorry could not resist. just wanted to know if anyone heard good or bad or if anyone ever made it before. Thank you for sharing and I will smell you later. LOL :thumb:
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Old June 24th, 2005, 10:51 PM   #7
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Re: Bio diesil ?

I have heard that they are making more and more on the west coast. There is a company that sells a DIY biodiesel maker. Kinda looks like a microbrewery. Of course it is gaining popularity in Cali....
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Old June 25th, 2005, 12:11 AM   #8
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Yep, I read an article about it in Discover magazine...
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Old June 25th, 2005, 08:01 AM   #9
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Bio diesel is not yet a standard definition. In many states if you add 20% of something reclaimed, reprocessed, or made from a renewable source, the end result is biodiesel (done for tax exemption reasons.) Every version of biodiesel may not be the same.
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Old June 25th, 2005, 09:41 AM   #10
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This is true. B100 is true 100% biodiesel, not mixed with anything. B20 is 80% biodesiel and 20% regular petro-diesel.

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Yes bio-diesel is great. We have tested it on the Cummins and it makes great power. Plus most of your restaurants will give you the cooking oil for free since they have to pay a disposal fee.
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Old June 25th, 2005, 06:34 PM   #12
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Just a caution, to repeat, guys: when you say we have tested "it" just recognize that "it" can change. It'll be called biodiesel and could be B100, B20, 20% french fry oil, 20% biomass, 20% garbage dump liquids...
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http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel.html

Site has some info on BioDiesel, and also on how to make it.
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Old June 25th, 2005, 08:32 PM   #14
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also check
http://www.biodiesel.org/
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Re: Bio diesil ?

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http://www.localb100.com/ is another good source.
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Old June 27th, 2005, 09:30 AM   #16
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I have quite a bit of experience with biodiesel. Watch out for backyard processors. You don't want any lye getting in your engine. The engines can run on filtered waste vegetable oil, but true biodiesel is better. With the popularity of bidiesel, it is almost impossible to get restaurant grease for free. There is a a big market for that. I am doing some testing at my office using once refined soybean oil. We built a reactor that can do about 60,000 gallons every two days. The great thing about biodiesel is the tax incentives. The producer gets a dollar a gallon credit as well as the buyer. If you look at some of the above mentioned web sites and want to try it, do not use the acid/base method. It helps to have a basic knowledge of chemistry and some decent lab equipment.
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Wow. Thank you all for the in put on the Bio. I have been wanting to try making it. Have a lot of hook ups from local Restaurants here in town. Sniffer Beaver, where are you in this great land? is it possible to hook up with you and go over the true fact s about Bio. There is so much crap on the Internet cannot really make any sense of it all.

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Old June 28th, 2005, 12:50 PM   #18
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Yellostain just pm me with your email and I'll try to anser any questions you have. The process is pretty simple, but you have to be careful with waste restaurant grease. The free fatty acids and water in the grease can make processing and soap formation a pain in the ass.
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Old June 30th, 2005, 08:07 AM   #19
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Anyone else know anything about Bio Diesel ?
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"When Rudi Wiedemann asks someone to smell his tailpipe, he isn’t dishing out a crude insult.
He’s just trying to prove a point about his passion — renewable, environmentally friendly energy.
Wiedemann, Biodiesel Solutions Inc. president/CEO, makes equipment that converts used cooking oil into biodiesel fuel. He runs his company truck on 100 percent recycled oil, which — when burned — smells similar to a deep-fat fryer.
The University of Nevada, Reno campus soon could start emitting the same odor because he donated a FuelMeister biodiesel production machine Wednesday to the Chemical Engineering Department’s biodiesel operation. The Sparks company demonstrated how the equipment works at its Greg Street headquarters before a group of 20 people, mostly college professors and students.
With the equipment, UNR can convert 40 gallons of used cooking oil a day to power campus trucks and shuttles without modifying the engines, Wiedemann said.
“With this production system, students will be able to learn about alternative forms of energy,” he said. “They will be able to feed the fuel back to UNR. We’re excited to empower them to do that.”
Biodiesel fuel can be made from almost any vegetable oil or animal fat using lye and racing methanol as a catalyst. The fuel is biodegradable, nontoxic and reduces emissions by 45 percent to 70 percent.
The only byproduct of making biodiesel is glycerin, which also is biodegradable and has several commercial applications, including as a degreaser.
Biodiesel can be used in any engine that uses No. 2 petroleum diesel fuel and can be mixed in any combination to reduce emissions and improve engine lubrication. The most commonly used mixture is B20, which contains 20 percent biodiesel.
The fuel does have a couple drawbacks, however. It can gel at extremely cold temperatures and corrode natural rubber fittings on older engines. It does not affect synthetic rubber used on newer engine models.
Also, it is still a relatively new concept for commercial application, and oil processing is not widely available. But Wiedemann sees that changing in Northern Nevada.
The goal of Biodiesel Solutions, he said, is to empower the local community to use local sources of oil that can be converted and used here.
“We are helping people make fuel from their own source instead of getting it from other countries,” he said. “We will be making larger systems in the future that can process oil for whole communities, prisons, farms — wherever you have an oil source.”
With the help of the Economic Development Authority of Western Nevada, Wiedemann said he decided to move his headquarters last October to Sparks from Freemont, Calif., because of the lower operating cost and quality of life here.
“Northern Nevada is business friendly,” he said. “We have received a lot of support for being a small business. That kind of welcome is rare in Silicon Valley.”
Wiedemann and Greg Springer, vice president of operations, relocated to Sparks and plan to hire 10 to 12 employees in the next year. They are looking to the UNR partnership as an opportunity to hire skilled workers.
Senior chemical engineering student Sarah Struble learned about Biodiesel Solutions from a school seminar and became interested in alternative fuels.
“It’s nice that the company is looking to hire from the university,” Struble said.
Fellow senior Josh Nickerson said renewable sources of energy will become increasingly important as problems with petroleum increase.
“I became interested after taking a pollution prevention course,” Nickerson said. “We are becoming a more petroleum-based society and it’s our responsibility to create a better society and promote better solutions as gas prices rise.”
UNR plans to have its fleet of vehicles running on B20 within two years, said Provost John Frederick.
“Our biodiesel operation developed out of a class project and we are excited about the part (Biodiesel Solutions) is playing in this active partnership,” Frederick said. “We are pleased to be partnering with them.”
Hopefully, he likes the smell of French fries."

The Benefits of Biodiesel
· Save Money – Biodiesel costs you 50 - 70 cents per gallon
· Lower Pollution – 10% that of petro-diesel
· Renewable Resource – Biodiesel made from living plants
· Biodegradable – safe as table salt
· Self-Reliance – runs ANYTHING that uses #2 diesel
· Fuel Flexibility – blends with any % of petro-diesel
· Cleaner Exhaust – exhaust smells like a deep-fat fryer
· Good Performance – cetane rating equals petro-diesel
· Energy Independence – gets you 'off-the-pipeline'
· Superior Lubricity – engines run smoother, last longer
· No Modifications – use biodiesel just like petro-diesel
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