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Old June 14th, 2005, 09:17 AM   #1
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Old June 14th, 2005, 09:19 AM   #2
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Re: who will be the first 542 twin turbo???

Seems like a lot of stroke for a TT.
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Old June 14th, 2005, 09:32 AM   #3
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Old June 14th, 2005, 09:39 AM   #4
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I thought this was a secret...
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Old June 14th, 2005, 09:56 AM   #5
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NOW THAT WE KNOW THAT WHO WILL BE THE FIRST 575 C.I. TWIN TURBO?

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Old June 14th, 2005, 10:32 AM   #6
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Re: who will be the first 542 twin turbo???

No need for that many cubes on a turbo motor. Also you will start to have problems with backpressure as well unless you run large turbos. May want to think about that.

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Old June 14th, 2005, 11:18 AM   #7
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Re: who will be the first 542 twin turbo???

[quote=JZ 97 SS 1500]No need for that many cubes on a turbo motor. Also you will start to have problems with backpressure as well unless you run large turbos. May want to think about that.THANX FOR THE HEADS UP. :thumb:THE ONLY TURBOS YOU WOULD PUT ON MONSTER CUBES WOULD BE MONSTER TURBOS.NO NEED TO HAVE A DRESS REHEARSAL OR SCIENCE PROJECT.

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Old June 14th, 2005, 11:30 AM   #8
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Re: who will be the first 542 twin turbo???

A pair of lightweight shaft T70's would work well. We have used these on a 502ci BBC and it spooled awesome. Also made over 700rwhp at just 8psi.
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Old June 14th, 2005, 02:12 PM   #9
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We're going for 600cid, 575 just doesn't cut the mustard with us.
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Old June 14th, 2005, 02:13 PM   #10
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adding 2 extra cyl?
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Old June 14th, 2005, 02:21 PM   #11
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Old June 14th, 2005, 04:14 PM   #12
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Re: who will be the first 542 twin turbo???

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adding 2 extra cyl?
funny, but wouldnt be neccissary if the demand was there...would be interesting to see "crate motors" of different sizes offered for the Viper, but since the low production volume of the Viper, i doubt the demand would ever be large enough to make it a profitable business venture, but i see no reason why "Viper" motors could not be produced in 600+ cubic inch variants...
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Old June 14th, 2005, 07:59 PM   #13
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Re: who will be the first 542 twin turbo???

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No need for that many cubes on a turbo motor. Also you will start to have problems with backpressure as well unless you run large turbos. May want to think about that.

JZ
Jose, I'm with you...why? A viper has 488 CI. It has enormous torque as it is. Add 2 turbos and there are no tires on the planet (outside of slicks)that can harness the thing. Plus fitting big enough turbos (enough to minimize backpressure) is going to be quite a challenge. I still don't see how SVS is able to squeeze my turbos in there.

There is this biggest and baddest trend happening here and on the LS1 board. I almost succumbed myself, building a 427 stoker for my Z. I was going to use it. With Jose's help I realized that I really didn't need it (plus couldn't fit a T88 to match up with the 427CI motor in my engine bay)...ended up making over 700rwhp on pump gas with stock(346 cubes). 850rwhp is entirely possible on race gas. Not big numbers by Viper standards, but ok for lil V8 and a T76 only carrying around 3,200lbs and enough to do 150's in the quarter.

Past a certain point you are going to run race gas anyway..so why not just turn up the boost knob. I just think you can do ALOT with two dryers and stock cubes as evidenced by some of the results already out there (Heffner, Underground, SVSi, Hennessey,etc.). Oh well...it'll be fun to watch.
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Old June 14th, 2005, 08:02 PM   #14
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Re: who will be the first 542 twin turbo???

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We're going for 600cid, 575 just doesn't cut the mustard with us.

How's the build comin Lar? I can't wait to read about it. :thumb:
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Old June 14th, 2005, 08:11 PM   #15
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Re: who will be the first 542 twin turbo???

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Seems like a lot of stroke for a TT.
If I was going to guess, I would have guessed that Biggg Badddddd Chad would be the one running a 542 cid motor with his big turbos. If i were a bettin man, i would bet you all the farm animals i got and all the chewin tobacco i got plus 100k of money that i would borrow from my mom and dad - that you had a big motor. I would make that bet if i were a bettin man....

I smell chicken shit here.... Ooops thats my dinner burning on the stove... I got to go...
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Old June 14th, 2005, 10:43 PM   #16
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Re: who will be the first 542 twin turbo???

A long stroke motor with say 90mm to 100mm turbos will get you well over the 2000bhp, I want to see the viper community put out. Chad is getting close with only 510cid. Paolo made over 1200rwhp and 1500rwtq with only 488cid.

For those who think I'm nuts. Here is something to think about. A twin turbo diesels can spool the turbos to 130psi of boost @ about 2500rpm. :shocked:


Sorry Chad. But in the next 2 years, 8's will be nothing to brag about, thus nowhere near a record. I exspect to see a viper pull a low 7 or high 6 @ over 200mph. I want to see the standing mile close to 250mph.

This can be done. But who has the $$$,$$$ to do it. I have the vision, just not the cash.



Who will build the 8.9L TT w/water+meth injected V10 MONSTER? Surely this combo can make 2000rwhp.
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Old June 14th, 2005, 11:41 PM   #17
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Old June 15th, 2005, 05:47 AM   #18
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Re: who will be the first 542 twin turbo???

Rock on Larry. I'm sure I'll have tears of joy when you bring that big hairy monster out to rip and kill at will. I can't wait.
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Old June 15th, 2005, 07:06 AM   #19
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Re: who will be the first 542 twin turbo???

FWIW, stock crank in my combo. I don't believe cubes are necessary and the larger the side loading on the Al block, the worse.

Once you graduate from the "12 Pounds of Boost Club" that everybody south of 25 pounds claims, you become free to turn the knob higher and higher.
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Old June 15th, 2005, 08:22 AM   #20
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Re: who will be the first 542 twin turbo???

Larry, how does every one, all of a sudden, know yellow car's cubic inch size? And to top it off they know about the 76mm TT. Dave Boggs must have had a decoder ring on to get all that from looking at it. Good thing no ones know the rest of the ingredients. Glad they do not know about the muffler bearing grease potal or the double rapped duct tape header either. F every one hurray for Me !! :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: