Re: Why figure it out for yourself when you can copy what someone else has
The real test is the tubing we cant see. The header design to the compressor flange of the turbos is the real trick. I know what Jason did on Chad's car to fit those monsters in there. Lets see the up skirt shot of a UGR car and I can tell you if he copied. Hell I would have copied too if it would have worked for GEN1's, but I would not as the frame rails are differant, and I dont build cars for anyone but myself. Copying to make $ off someone else is shitty was to make a buck, but what the hell Japan has been doing it for years. I think Jason was just pointing it out to everyone. SO LETS SEE THE UNDER CAR PHOTOS!!!
Re: Why figure it out for yourself when you can copy what someone else has
Re: Why figure it out for yourself when you can copy what someone else has
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Originally Posted by dansauto
The real test is the tubing we cant see. The header design to the compressor flange of the turbos is the real trick. I know what Jason did on Chad's car to fit those monsters in there. Lets see the up skirt shot of a UGR car and I can tell you if he copied. Hell I would have copied too if it would have worked for GEN1's, but I would not as the frame rails are differant, and I dont build cars for anyone but myself. Copying to make $ off someone else is shitty was to make a buck, but what the hell Japan has been doing it for years. I think Jason was just pointing it out to everyone. SO LETS SEE THE UNDER CAR PHOTOS!!!
Makes sense to me - SHOW US THE UNDER CAR PICS!!!
Re: Why figure it out for yourself when you can copy what someone else has
Re: Why figure it out for yourself when you can copy what someone else has
Keep the pictures coming guys.
I'm just developing a twin turbo kit to sell and these pics are pure gold. Sure beats the 'twin Turbonator' kit I initially was putting together.
Although the turbonator gets 31% better gas mileage each so with 2 of them, you're looking at.....ugh (thinking) 2 times 31, one and one is, um, carry the 4, divide by something or other....75% better gas mileage or something like that. Can't beat that.
Re: Why figure it out for yourself when you can copy what someone else has
Re: Why figure it out for yourself when you can copy what someone else has
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Originally Posted by Genetic Cesspool
Keep the pictures coming guys.
I'm just developing a twin turbo kit to sell and these pics are pure gold. Sure beats the 'twin Turbonator' kit I initially was putting together.
Although the turbonator gets 31% better gas mileage each so with 2 of them, you're looking at.....ugh (thinking) 2 times 31, one and one is, um, carry the 4, divide by something or other....75% better gas mileage or something like that. Can't beat that.
Genetic, I'm in!!!!
I'm guessing your fabricator's name starts with a "C"!!!
Re: Why figure it out for yourself when you can copy what someone else has
Re: Why figure it out for yourself when you can copy what someone else has
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Originally Posted by BigCarrot
I would like to congratulate Underground's fabricator for building a phenomenal set of headers there. Those look to be very close to equal length! Very Nice! :thumb:
I also like how the intercooler piping stays out away from being directly behind the radiant heat off the radiator coming into the center from the outside a little later and higher up. That should definitely make for a cooler intake charge than the other picture with all other things being equal!
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Re: Why figure it out for yourself when you can copy what someone else has
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Originally Posted by Paolo Castellano
I would like to congratulate Underground's fabricator for building a phenomenal set of headers there. Those look to be very close to equal length! Very Nice! :thumb:
I also like how the intercooler piping stays out away from being directly behind the radiant heat off the radiator coming into the center from the outside a little later and higher up. That should definitely make for a cooler intake charge than the other picture with all other things being equal!
Uhhhh shouldnt you be congratulating Heffner and telling Undergrounds fabricator what great eyesight he has?
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Re: Why figure it out for yourself when you can copy what someone else has
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Originally Posted by Heffner Performance
Really, interesting. Here is a picture of your first SRT TT design. It looks to me that if you wanted the most direct path from the intercooler to the throttle body then this is it. This was an original design. Why did you change it?
Now here is a picture of one of our cars that was done about a year and a half ago.
[image]http://www.garyjavo.com/images/pictures/srt10twinturbo/12.JPG[/image]
Now here is a picture of how you redesigned yours.
[image]http://www.rshankar.com/viper/ugr7.jpg[/image]
See any resemblance? It looks to me that your second design would have resulted in a less direct route from the throttle body to the intercooler. What was the reason for this change, other than to look like ours?
Now here is a picture of one of our GTS'.
[image]http://www.viperalley.com/gallery/data/500/1948tt2.jpg[/image]
Why don't you do us a favor and show us what your GTS system looks like. :thumb:
Also, would you please clarify your statement about a motor staying together? As far as how many 1200 rwhp SRT's, I've never had a request for one though even you are smart enough not to doubt we could do it.
Honestly, starting this thread was a bit unnecessary but so was trying to make your turbo systems look like ours.
Kevin,
I think you should go back to the original way you did the intercooler piping.
Some might argue that it looks cleaner to have the pipes come up from behind the radiator, but I know you did not want to have the heat of going over the top, but I think it is ultimately cooler NOT coming up from behind the radiator.
Think of all the hot air being sucked through by the fan not to mention all the radiant heat from the engine compartment heat soaking the intercooler piping when you are stopped. I think a simple heat shield strip on top of the radiator would alleviate much of what you were probably worrying about in the first place! Then you will have the coolest and most direct path to the throttle bodies.
Re: Why figure it out for yourself when you can copy what someone else has
Re: Why figure it out for yourself when you can copy what someone else has
Paolo, with your turbos up front - are you concerned with the adverse effect
of the extra heat on the belts/hoses and other heat sensitive items up front?
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Re: Why figure it out for yourself when you can copy what someone else has
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Originally Posted by Smokin
Uhhhh shouldnt you be congratulating Heffner and telling Undergrounds fabricator what great eyesight he has?
Hey short guy I was not trying to insult you... Sorry you took it that way... You seem to be the only one left crying with all your BS talk...:redbeard2: Cant believe how sore you are that Blown GTS did everything you said it wouldn't do. . I said its ok I forgave long ago short guy !! I know you hate being proven wrong but its ok... Stop making an ass of your self.. Try and have a good day short guy!!!
Oh yea, As far as our Fabricator and header builder, he is considered to be one of the best in the WORLD! He does about half of the Nextel Cup cars like Dale JR., Jeff Gordon's and etc. Most of the Pro stock like Warren Johnston and many more... Don't worry we didn't copy Heffners work but I can guarantee you our Fabrication work is second to none!! Now got to go shorty .. Piece be with you... I admire a guy that is always looking up ... so lighten up.
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Re: Why figure it out for yourself when you can copy what someone else has
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Originally Posted by HP
Paolo, with your turbos up front - are you concerned with the adverse effect
of the extra heat on the belts/hoses and other heat sensitive items up front?
HP, this is not a thread about me or my systems. The short answer is no. :thumb:
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Re: Why figure it out for yourself when you can copy what someone else has
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Originally Posted by BlownGTS
:bawling: Low blow you bastage.......Priorites man, did end up with a nice beach home though. MBY
Who invited you.. j/k.. Why do your kids just like me..lol Hey don't pay attention to Smokin.... he's still mad about your car doing everything and more that he said it wouldn't... Oh well.. tall words from a short guy... Matt you remember smokin don't you from the Superbowl?? He was the short guy that raided the closet of the Artist formally know as Prince... After a lot of expense of hemming all his clothes to make them fit a short person.. Smokin I should have my fabricator make you your own symbol at my expense of course..
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Re: Why figure it out for yourself when you can copy what someone else has
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Originally Posted by UnderGroundRacing
Who invited you.. j/k.. Why do your kids just like me..lol Hey don't pay attention to Smokin.... he's still mad about your car doing everything and more that he said it wouldn't... Oh well.. tall words from a short guy... Matt you remember smokin don't you from the Superbowl?? He was the short guy that raided the closet of the Artist formally know as Prince... After a lot of expense of hemming all his clothes to make them fit a short person.. Smokin I should have my fabricator make you your own symbol at my expense of course..
Nice, why dont you have your NASCRAP fabricator make me up some honkey tonk do-dad that meets your fancy? I'll guess that your symbol..errrrr...abomination of "hickishness" is gonna look something like a CD sized belt buckle with inbedded pork rhines and chewing tobacco. Shit with your inbred roots, and your fabricator's snaggletooth social circle, Im guessing your shop's social dynamics has gotta be along the lines of trailer trash meets "king of the hill". Even better, why dont you just google up "country bumpkin" and copy the first symbol you find? See, before you start criticizing my attire, focus on correcting the fact that you can look like the real life version Rosco Pee-Co Train in a crowd of people in HOUSTON, TX.
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Re: Why figure it out for yourself when you can copy what someone else has
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Originally Posted by Smokin
Nice, why dont you have your NASCRAP fabricator make me up some honkey tonk do-dad that meets your fancy? I'll guess that your symbol..errrrr...abomination of "hickishness" is gonna look something like a CD sized belt buckle with inbedded pork rhines and chewing tobacco. Shit with your inbred roots, and your fabricator's snaggletooth social circle, Im guessing your shop's social dynamics has gotta be along the lines of trailer trash meets "king of the hill". Even better, why dont you just google up "country bumpkin" and copy the first symbol you find? See, before you start criticizing my attire, focus on correcting the fact that you can look like the real life version Rosco Pee-Co Train in a crowd of people HOUSTON, TX.
Good comeback ... You crack me up shorty... Your a good 1/2 man.. Got to try and get some work done now.. Don't lose your friends in a crowd anymore.... keep that stool with you in the gay clubs..
Re: Why figure it out for yourself when you can copy what someone else has
I was not trying to insult you... 
Sorry you took it that way... You seem to be the only one left crying with all your BS talk...:redbeard2: Cant believe how sore you are that Blown GTS did everything you said it wouldn't do. 
He does about half of the Nextel Cup cars like Dale JR., Jeff Gordon's and etc. Most of the Pro stock like Warren Johnston and many more... 
Piece be with you... I admire a guy that is always looking up ... so lighten up. 
Oh well.. tall words from a short guy... 
You crack me up shorty... 
