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Old November 13th, 2004, 04:02 PM   #1
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ATCO - Some New Bests for the Viper Today

Good news and bad news:

Good: Yes I got some new bests and the car was running STRONG. Cool weather in the 40s is awesome.

BUT.....

Bad: Track Prep was non-existent and I was running in to a 18-20mph headwind.

My car hooks better on the street. I had to lift out of every 1-2 shift, one time it was facing the wall and talk about wheel hop.

My car was actually spinning and wheelhopping on some 2-3 shifts - it usually only chirps 2-3 on the street.

Launching was tricky, the car would take no more than 2000rpms off the line.

Anyhow- THE RESULTS

My best run (2000rpm launch, hopped bad on the 1-2 and lifted, spun bad on the 2nd-3rd)
1.899 - 60' NEW BEST
8.036 - 1/8 NEW BEST
92.93 - mph
12.318 - 1/4 NEW BEST
117.48 - mph

My 2nd best run (2000rpm launch, 1-2 hopped bad, lifted 1/2 way and got back in)
1.994 - 60'
8.105 - 1/8
94.10 - mph NEW BEST
12.352 - 1/4
118.52 - mph NEW BEST

My last time out was in July in upper 80 degree temps and high humidity -
that resulted in a 12.34@116.1 with a 1.94 60' and a 1/8 of 8.0xx and 91.xxx. I can't find the slips currently.

Keep in mind the car is STOCK on STOCK RADIALS - I know this car has 11s in it with better traction down the track - at least my 03 Cobra only hopped out of the hole, never on the 1-2 or 2-3 shifts.

Still - my 03 Cobra has the Viper bested with a 7.99 1/8 and a 12.22 1/4 - but at lower mph's.

Until next time,

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Old November 13th, 2004, 04:06 PM   #2
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Re: ATCO - Some New Bests for the Viper Today

You actually went today? Man no way I was going out to freeze and watch cars slide all over like a drifting contest.

What was the track temp? Under 65 and even an NHRA track prep would do you any good. Not that this is an NHRA track.
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Old November 13th, 2004, 05:55 PM   #3
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Re: ATCO - Some New Bests for the Viper Today

It was like 42-43 degrees out, with the wind chill like 31 degrees.

My car was spinning (hopping) on the 1-2 shift (I had to lift every time) and it would even spin and hop on the 2-3 shifts.

I only managed 1 decent 60' time of 1.89, all others were 1.99-2.00s.

Oh well, it was an experience in learning how to TRY and TAME the beast.

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Old November 13th, 2004, 06:06 PM   #4
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I had 1 1/2 " of snow on the ground here....no way i could get out of the garage
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Old November 13th, 2004, 06:16 PM   #5
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Re: ATCO - Some New Bests for the Viper Today

Howard was the sun out all day? If so you maybe had gotten lucky and had track temps around 55 or so. [img]/images/graemlins/laughing.gif[/img]

Good showing tough, you will get better with practice. :thumb:


Hey Phil, no snow here just icy roads last night. Damn awd is not a bit off help on that crap. So I take it City did not go either?
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Old November 13th, 2004, 06:19 PM   #6
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Re: ATCO - Some New Bests for the Viper Today

Nobody was running good anyway.

I saw a 2004 Viper run a 13.2 @ 115.

I saw a Roe Blown Viper GTS run a 11.8@126.

I ran a Vortech supercharged 383 Vette and he only trapped 107-109.

In the staging lanes I heard alot of LOW trap speeds and high ets.

I ran a modified 05 C6 Vette (heads,exhaust, etc.. by Cartek), on slicks he ran 11.7s@117mph with 1.6 60's.

The Viper was making GREAT power, I just couldn't harness it.
I have never had a car SPIN and HOP on the 2-3 shift.

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jerome, he went up to tators i think...

there is STILL ice on my driveway...
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Old November 13th, 2004, 08:25 PM   #8
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I smoked the clutch on the first pass!

The 2nd pass confirmed it!
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Old November 13th, 2004, 08:28 PM   #9
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Re: ATCO - Some New Bests for the Viper Today

Sorry to hear that.

It was nice meeting you, I hope you have better luck next time.

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Old November 13th, 2004, 08:32 PM   #10
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Re: ATCO - Some New Bests for the Viper Today

I seem to have this problem! I'm on clutch #5, now going on #6! [img]/images/graemlins/surrender[/img]

It was nice meeting you as well. Congrats on your new bests! [img]/images/graemlins/thumbs2[/img]

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Old November 13th, 2004, 08:47 PM   #11
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I ran my bone stock RT/10 to a best run of 12.14 on a 1.83 60'. I thought traction was fine. I was cutting 1.5X 60' in a 850 rwhp Z06 so it couldn't have been bad [img]/images/graemlins/laughing.gif[/img]

For some reason, I couldn't get the Viper out of 12s today. It sucks considering I was running 4/10ths better last week.

It was a blast anyway.
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Old November 13th, 2004, 10:56 PM   #12
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Re: ATCO - Some New Bests for the Viper Today

Paul -

What was your mph in the viper???

Off the line prep was good, but for some reason I was spinning and hopping on the 2-3 shift a couple of times like I would on a 1-2 shift. The 1-2 shifts were brutal, I granny shifted and still had to lift on the 1-2 shift.

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So I take it City did not go either?
I waited till about 10 Am to leave for Chuck's and Sal's Inspection. There was a good inch of snow on the ground once I got north of Armonk. Frigin people were driving on 684 at 70 MPH with 3 inches of snow left on their cars...puuuffff... every 3-4 miles I had to dodge some flying chunk of airborne ice! They even salted the roads, so I had to wash my car after I got home! [img]/images/graemlins/furious2[/img]

Finally got my inspection done. :thumb:
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Old November 14th, 2004, 09:05 AM   #14
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Paul -

What was your mph in the viper???

Off the line prep was good, but for some reason I was spinning and hopping on the 2-3 shift a couple of times like I would on a 1-2 shift. The 1-2 shifts were brutal, I granny shifted and still had to lift on the 1-2 shift.

Howard
My mph was down too (probably because of the 20 mph headwind). I was trapping only around 114.
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Old November 14th, 2004, 12:57 PM   #15
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Re: ATCO - Some New Bests for the Viper Today

YELLO3,
Did you try the left lane? It was much better than the right side for most of the day.
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Old November 14th, 2004, 01:20 PM   #16
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Re: ATCO - Some New Bests for the Viper Today

Jerry -

I tried the left lane once, I hit the 1-2 shift, even shortshifted at like 5200rpm and I headed on a 45 degree angle toward the middle of the track and had to back out completely resulting in a 12.6@116.6 - my worst run of the day.

After that I just stayed in the right lane.

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I bet you could have pulled off some spectacular runs if the track was prepped correctly. That's ok, spring will be here before you know it. Good job though
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Tanked -

Thanks.

The mph was there, and as a comparison I seem to run 2/10s off Paul's times, I never said I was a great driver.

But, a 1.89 60' combined with a 118.5 mph trap speed (in to the wind) would have been an easy 11.9 slip on a better day. But, NO EXCUSES -

I might have an 11 second car with a 12 second driver.

There has to be a reason I have never run an 11 second pass in any of my cars,

my 03 Cobra ran a 12.22@116.1 (1.93 60'), and my Blown 88 GT ran a 12.32@116.8 on a 2.00 60' - I always run on radials - that could be the problem.

I have never run my 92.

OH well, it seems the Nut behind the wheel is Loose on all my cars.

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I might have an 11 second car with a 12 second driver.

At least your honest. I must be the same way. Although, I don't think a my bone stock ACR can run 11's without some slicks. Maybe it could squeak out a 11...but I'm a 12 sec driver too [img]/images/graemlins/wink[/img]
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Re: ATCO - Some New Bests for the Viper Today

i found that the track was no match for 600 ponies to the wheels on my car. every 1-2 shift and some 2-3 ones resulted in some nasty wheel hop and step out action on the juice. put it this way. i had a meager babied 2.0 60 ft time with a 12.55 et at 127mph i only had to totally get off the gas straigten back up and nail it again to finish the run. knew it was shit but likes to stay in it to see how hard the dodge pulled on a stock z06. It wasn't pretty. my car with radials loves atco usually but the track has to be at lest 70 degrees plus to hold stock radials with 600 ponies. paul, i read on the other site, how your tt zo6 was handling the traction issues fine. i am sure if my car and full slicks i would have been cool too, but radials with high horsepower cant hold on a track when its 32 degree windchill.
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