Opinions on B&B Headers

Super Squirrel · April 19th, 2004, 09:52 AM

How does B&B headers affect the sound and performance of your car?

I have an 01 RT with a Borla Exhaust and was wondering how much Headers would affect the performance...a bit more RWHP.

Furthermore, what's a fair price for a set of used B&B headers?

Someone educate me please.

GTS Dean · April 19th, 2004, 07:09 PM

The price of used B&B is about the same as brand new HMS headers on the group buy deal. Get some!

99 RT/10 · April 19th, 2004, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by GTS Dean

The price of used B&B is about the same as brand new HMS headers on the group buy deal. Get some!

Not really, I have a set of NEW B&B's I am selling for $1350. Little cheaper, [img]/images/graemlins/supergrin.gif[/img]

Super Squirrel · April 19th, 2004, 08:52 PM

why are you getting rid of the b and b's viperboy?

J DAWG · April 19th, 2004, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Super Squirrel

why are you getting rid of the b and b's viperboy?

because he is tired of being a parts whore!

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Norm, let me know when you are up north and you can take a listen to my setup.

CS · April 19th, 2004, 10:08 PM

The B&B's are the best sounding header I've ever heard.

99 RT/10 · April 19th, 2004, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by J DAWG

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Originally Posted by Super Squirrel

why are you getting rid of the b and b's viperboy?

because he is tired of being a parts whore!

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Norm, let me know when you are up north and you can take a listen to my setup.

True, true.

Actually, I bought these in anticipation of putting them on the 99, but got lucky. The car already came equipped with TNT headers. So the garage must get cleaned out!

Mike

2002_Viper_GTS_ACR · April 19th, 2004, 11:28 PM

FYI Bitch (aka 96 R/T 10) those headers your selling (if they are the same ones you recently uploaded to the photos section) are the OLD design, that is prone to cracking at the HANGER around the turn, they should be CUT OFF to avoid potential side sill fires !!

Just an FYI, I have proof of that statement, and even B&B changing the design based on my findings !!

Jon

Super Squirrel · April 19th, 2004, 11:32 PM

how can you tell if they are the defective designed ones or not..is there a cut off date when the new ones were designed?

2002_Viper_GTS_ACR · April 19th, 2004, 11:37 PM

http://www.viperalley.com/gallery/sh.../cat/500/page/

Look at this link, this a photo of the old style.

The only item thats been revised is the elbow, they do not use that HANGER Rod thats coming off the corner, as it is prone to flexing and eventually cracking/breaking off and exposing an open exit point for hot exhaust gases, right into the you side sill.

Jon

Super Squirrel · April 19th, 2004, 11:42 PM

"Thanks 02ACR....any pics of the new style?

Super Squirrel · April 19th, 2004, 11:43 PM

I GUESS THEY'D LOOK THE SAME WIHTOUT THE HANGING ROD...DUH RIGHT?

99 RT/10 · April 20th, 2004, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by 2002_Viper_GTS_ACR

FYI Bitch (aka 96 R/T 10) those headers your selling (if they are the same ones you recently uploaded to the photos section) are the OLD design, that is prone to cracking at the HANGER around the turn, they should be CUT OFF to avoid potential side sill fires !!

Just an FYI, I have proof of that statement, and even B&B changing the design based on my findings !!

Jon

Did you fuck up a header install? And Biatch, where the hell were you? [img]/images/graemlins/dunno[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/dunno[/img] I was going to stomp the slow ass car of yours back to the east coast!

I suppose that if desired, they could be cut, but the Borlas and nearly every other manufacturer is set up the same way (I know first hand about the Borla's). Dude, get that car Underground before the sky starts falling [img]/images/graemlins/bawling[/img]

**Snake Bitten** · April 20th, 2004, 12:52 AM

Is it me, or did Mike's little go-cart trophy go to his head??? When did he start talkin all this smack??? [img]/images/graemlins/supergrin.gif[/img]

99 RT/10 · April 20th, 2004, 12:55 AM

I am the KING, I am the KING [img]/images/graemlins/supergrin.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/supergrin.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/supergrin.gif[/img]

**Snake Bitten** · April 20th, 2004, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by 96 R/T 10

I am the KING, I am the KING [img]/images/graemlins/supergrin.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/supergrin.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/supergrin.gif[/img]

You got bout four months to nut up...You just made "the list"... [img]/images/graemlins/laughing.gif[/img]

MOJO, JDAWG, and "insert your name here!"

KingViper · April 20th, 2004, 04:48 AM

Hey Norm:
I got a new set of B&Bs sitting in my garage that I am gonna have installed with my T&D rockers and Roe S/C soon. I will let you know. I have been doing a lot of looking around and went with the B&Bs instead of the Belangers. Ask Sean, he will tell ya that headers are not the best bang for the buck bolt-on, but he would rec. B&Bs over other headers. Make sure you go with the 1 3/4" ones and not the 1 5/8". I got mine brand new for about $1580.00. Let me know if I can help on any way. Sorry I have no numbers regarding gains or sound. But from what I have heard, they are the best sounding ones with Corsas.

Good luck!

Super Squirrel · April 20th, 2004, 08:05 AM

thanks King...keep meposted

Simms · April 20th, 2004, 08:38 AM

I just intalled a pair of 1 3/4" B&B headers this weekend. Install was very straight forward, and the fit was excellent. I had no issues. Sound is awesome.

pauls · April 20th, 2004, 08:50 AM

I've had B&B on my GTS since 1997. Fit great, no leaks, Sounds great. I've had no issues with anything cracking. They have a slip joint to absorb any body movement.