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Old April 6th, 2004, 09:19 PM   #1
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First performance upgrade?

What is the first thing to do with a Viper if you want more power?
In witch order should the engine upgrade go?
Is there any badly constructed parts on the engine that should be fixed?

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Old April 6th, 2004, 09:25 PM   #2
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Re: First performance upgrade?

personally the first thing I would do is gears. The engine won't make anymore power but it will feel faster. That and 6th gear will be usable at legal highway speeds.

That and throw the stock shifter in the garbage.
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Old April 6th, 2004, 09:25 PM   #3
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Re: First performance upgrade?

K & N air filters and smooth tubes are usally the first thing.
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Old April 6th, 2004, 09:27 PM   #4
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Re: First performance upgrade?

Filters and tubes are cheap and easy. Exhaust is next.
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personally the first thing I would do is gears. The engine won't make anymore power but it will feel faster. That and 6th gear will be usable at legal highway speeds.

That and throw the stock shifter in the garbage.
Hmm? Gears? Open the gearbox? Tell me more please.

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Old April 6th, 2004, 09:38 PM   #6
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Filters and tubes are cheap and easy. Exhaust is next.
Sounds great to? [img]/images/graemlins/smiles[/img] I saw polished headers on one car, is this good to?
Is there any sidepipe-systems on the market?

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Old April 6th, 2004, 09:40 PM   #7
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Re: First performance upgrade?

Gears, when I went from 3.07's to 3.45's...it felt like a brand new g/f...
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personally the first thing I would do is gears. The engine won't make anymore power but it will feel faster. That and 6th gear will be usable at legal highway speeds.

That and throw the stock shifter in the garbage.
Hmm? Gears? Open the gearbox? Tell me more please.

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Change the final drive ratio. The stock is 3.07. Going to 3.54's will be a whole new ballgame.
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personally the first thing I would do is gears. The engine won't make anymore power but it will feel faster. That and 6th gear will be usable at legal highway speeds.

That and throw the stock shifter in the garbage.
Hmm? Gears? Open the gearbox? Tell me more please.

/Mike
Change the final drive ratio. The stock is 3.07. Going to 3.54's will be a whole new ballgame.
Doesnīt the car get a slower topspeed with that final drive?

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Re: First performance upgrade?

cant use 6th anyways.. or redline in 5th.
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Old April 6th, 2004, 09:58 PM   #11
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cant use 6th anyways.. or redline in 5th.
Why? To low torque? [img]/images/graemlins/supergrin.gif[/img] Please tell me.

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personally the first thing I would do is gears. The engine won't make anymore power but it will feel faster. That and 6th gear will be usable at legal highway speeds.

That and throw the stock shifter in the garbage.
Hmm? Gears? Open the gearbox? Tell me more please.

/Mike
Change the final drive ratio. The stock is 3.07. Going to 3.54's will be a whole new ballgame.
Doesnīt the car get a slower topspeed with that final drive?

/Mike
You planning to spend much time north of 170?
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Old April 6th, 2004, 10:07 PM   #13
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the 307's to 345's....what xactly is diff about them? torque?
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Old April 6th, 2004, 10:09 PM   #14
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personally the first thing I would do is gears. The engine won't make anymore power but it will feel faster. That and 6th gear will be usable at legal highway speeds.

That and throw the stock shifter in the garbage.
Hmm? Gears? Open the gearbox? Tell me more please.

/Mike
Change the final drive ratio. The stock is 3.07. Going to 3.54's will be a whole new ballgame.
Doesnīt the car get a slower topspeed with that final drive?

/Mike
You planning to spend much time north of 170?
270 km/h... 300 is magic in Sweden. [img]/images/graemlins/smiles[/img]

I get your point but itīs hard to understand all technical talk. [img]/images/graemlins/sad[/img]

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Old April 6th, 2004, 10:20 PM   #15
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Re: First performance upgrade?

The gears is a great idea until you add a lot of power. Going to 3.55's will feel like an extra 60-70 hp easy. There was someone recently trying to swap his 3.55's for the 3.07's. Don't remember what site though.
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Old April 6th, 2004, 10:28 PM   #16
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the 307's to 345's....what xactly is diff about them? torque?
Spins up quicker..."feels" like alot more power...and I can pull a fairly stock Viper with just my gears...
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Re: First performance upgrade?

bitten, what kind of price range (yes, I'm too lazy to research it) are we talking here and do you feel that the B&M ripper is the golden standard of short shifters?
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bitten, what kind of price range (yes, I'm too lazy to research it) are we talking here and do you feel that the B&M ripper is the golden standard of short shifters?
I feel the B&M is a waste of money...the stock shifter with a shorter shift knob (MGW) works fantastic...

You could buy an entire pumkin and cover for around $1350, keep your complete stocker, or you could drop your stocker, ship it to Unitrax, and get it back for around a grand...with shipping...
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Old April 7th, 2004, 07:45 PM   #19
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Is there any DOHC heads to the Viper? Is the original heads good?

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Re: First performance upgrade?

everyone has given you good suggestions. just one problem; you didnt say how much loot you wanna spend. thats one of the main factors. hell if you got it, then first upgrade should be a heffenr TT, itll be your first and last upgrade [img]/images/graemlins/supergrin.gif[/img]

(well, youll be doing brakes and halfshafts too hopefully [img]/images/graemlins/supergrin.gif[/img] )
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