I talked to a guy who, I think, had the exact right idea.
Whenever someone spends this kind of money on an SC kit, they want to feel confident of their decision. It's natural to bash the competition because, in their minds, it makes them feel like they made the right choice.
Mike, Do you feel that is also why some Heffner guys are upset with blownGTS ?
p.s. Any word on the package I sent you ?
As Mike stated if the numbers come out right. Then proably yes they would have some ruffled feathers so to speak.
I'm happy with my SC kit from ROE and the numbers it produced at a fraction of the cost. :thumb:
Hell, I'm not knocking ayone SC kit.
If you can do it better than the next at a cheaper price the more power to you. :thumb:
No, youre wrong here. This is where many of us differ. I personally do not believe that "cheaper is better". You do get what you pay for. If ALL you were looking at on a supercharger kit was the final HP number then that may be your mentality, but if you are a die-hard hot-rodder that looks at the whole package, then your mentality may be different. Moreover, if you arent counting your last penny and there isnt much of a difference between spending $10K or $18K then who cares?
What about the cosmetics of the system? Im talking shit a true hot-rodder, enthusiast, or even engineer would notice....quality of welds (how the bead is layed, how even are the welds, etc). What kind of fittings and line are used on the system? (This shit is NOT cheap. My entier fuel, oiling, and cooling system, is pretty much ALL done in TAPPED an fittings, from a -6AN to -10AN lines). if there is a tensioner, how easy is it to adjust? How "Clean" is the overall look of the system? What extras are included? (I didnt just get a blower, I got a new cooling system, modified oiling system, warranty, best tech support, etc). How reliable is the system long term? How streetable is the car? Does it have ANY detonation...EVER? (me, nope). What kind of fasteners does the tuner use? Plain stainless? ARP? Steel? nickel Plated? Is the system polished? Chrome plated? How customized is the system? Do you have to redo some of the customization yourself later? How does the airbox look? is there an airbox? IF it has fuel rails, how are they mounted? sheet metal bent up brackets? Or Billet brackets? How well is the plumbing routed? how well is the fuel system mounted? How is the fuel picked up? What kind of bypass/blow off valve does the system use? Does the car run hot? The list just goes on and on and on.....
Start adding all these parts in, the "extras" and youll quickly find any system priced closer to a Heffner or DLM system. Is that for everyone? Nope. Some people are perfectly happy buying a corvette as well. Some people are perfectly happy having a hot rod, but others will spring for the chrome tubular A-arms and coil over suspension. The budget guy will be happy with the same overall look with leaf springs and "cleaned up" originals.
I think responding to this post will only start something that will
A. drag me down to your level
B. Perhaps make you see things in a different way
C. Give you the pleasure of reading your own pathetic attempts of smack which are only 1st grade insults with fancy adverbs mixed in.
Never mud wrestle with pig, you'll both get dirty and the pig will enjoy it...
Take Care Smokin'
G
Gerald, I have been mud wrestling a bunch of pigs on the .org site for the last few days...... Can you believe it turns out they're really a bunch of KEYBOARD RACER LITTLE SISSY BITCHES! The pigs/sissy bitches sure enjoyed it until it was time to put up or shut up! [img]/images/graemlins/flipa.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/gasthrower.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/flip2.gif[/img] :fist: [img]/images/graemlins/argue.gif[/img]
I guess we all know how to make you shut up now.....
Paolo,
Gerald's always been wearing his hippocrite's hat, thing is with the last post, he sinched that sumbitch hat on so tight, his eyeballs are buldging at their sockets....no its not the roids. The reason Gerald bothered to bring up the post, is clear. It fuckin irked him to hell. Why? Obviously in that slew of mods I listed theres something he's missing. So why didnt he comment? Becasue he is afraid that he cant hang. Plain and simple chicken shit antics. Hes afraid of starting somethign here on the alley he cant finish. Hes sitting there posting his girlfriend topless on his avatar and expects us to believe that there is some "mythical, fairy-tale" level that he wont stoop to? Shit hes been stooping so low, so long that hes been diggin. Shit, if he stoops any fuckin lower, he gonna dig his hipocrite ass clear through the earth allowing his hipocrite hat, covering his hippocrite head is to make a cameo apperance in fuckin Australia.
Paolo I'll be putting out soon enough for ya. Hopefully before dec [img]/images/graemlins/gr_driving3.gif[/img] All bs aside, I'm really looking forward to doing some highway pulls to whatever it takes I will have a passenger in my car , how about yourself, can you find someone enough to get in a car with you while we duke it out. I'd love to get two different videos with different prespectives [img]/images/graemlins/lurk.gif[/img] Loser buys dinner deal My offer stands to any Heffner car out there, time to do some real world battling instead of this internet bs [img]/images/graemlins/lurk.gif[/img]
[quote=Smokin
Paolo,
Gerald's always been wearing his hippocrite's hat, thing is with the last post, he sinched that sumbitch hat on so tight, his eyeballs are buldging at their sockets....no its not the roids. The reason Gerald bothered to bring up the post, is clear. It fuckin irked him to hell. Why? Obviously in that slew of mods I listed theres something he's missing. So why didnt he comment? Becasue he is afraid that he cant hang. Plain and simple chicken shit antics. Hes afraid of starting somethign here on the alley he cant finish. Hes sitting there posting his girlfriend topless on his avatar and expects us to believe that there is some "mythical, fairy-tale" level that he wont stoop to? Shit hes been stooping so low, so long that hes been diggin. Shit, if he stoops any fuckin lower, he gonna dig his hipocrite ass clear through the earth allowing his hipocrite hat, covering his hippocrite head is to make a cameo apperance in fuckin Australia.
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha, this thread wasn't even about you and you have to attack me.. hahahahahahahahahahahaah, who's the one that's irked? Where did this attack come from?... hahahahahahahahahahah, so owned by his own words... LOL!!!!Holy shit!!! bwhahahahaha..my sides hurt....
you even posted twice.. I'm let down , you usually post like 10 things in a row... :bawling:
I"m confused , how do you make me shut up? You're just used to me not saying anything as I usually don't give a fuck. But your beer muscles are getting out of hand latley.
For a second there Paolo I thought those smiles were two guys gettin' ready to fuck. Kinda got me wondering there about you. I'm sure we could put names to those smiles.. Who's the giver and who's the receiver?
Drag racing isn't my thing and if I had a track right next door, I still wouldnt' go. I think it's boring as hell. But for you Paolo, just for you, if you're EVER in Florida, I'll race you in whatever kind of race you want. 1/4 miles, roll on, whatever... Just not the standing mile, that's nuts as I think many would agree. I'd really be curious to see what my Level II would do against your monster. Maybe I could get lucky.
So again,Paolo, I'm curious, please... shut me up. Now that you want the spotlight on this thread...
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha, this thread wasn't even about you and you have to attack me.. hahahahahahahahahahahaah, who's the one that's irked? Where did this attack come from?... hahahahahahahahahahah, so owned by his own words... LOL!!!!Holy shit!!! bwhahahahaha..my sides hurt....
you even posted twice.. I'm let down , you usually post like 10 things in a row... :bawling:
I"m confused , how do you make me shut up? You're just used to me not saying anything as I usually don't give a fuck. But your beer muscles are getting out of hand latley.
For a second there Paolo I thought those smiles were two guys gettin' ready to fuck. Kinda got me wondering there about you. I'm sure we could put names to those smiles.. Who's the giver and who's the receiver?
Drag racing isn't my thing and if I had a track right next door, I still wouldnt' go. I think it's boring as hell. But for you Paolo, just for you, if you're EVER in Florida, I'll race you in whatever kind of race you want. 1/4 miles, roll on, whatever... Just not the standing mile, that's nuts as I think many would agree. I'd really be curious to see what my Level II would do against your monster. Maybe I could get lucky.
So again,Paolo, I'm curious, please... shut me up. Now that you want the spotlight on this thread...
Gerald, I already have! Is this the best you can muster after a couple of days??????
You are a keyboard racer not worth my time.
"For a second there Paolo I thought those smiles were two guys gettin' ready to fuck..."
Only in your sick little world of gerbils and topless stripper avatars would anything so disgusting come to mind......
Talk to the hand...........????????
I would rather soar with the eagles????????????
I really feel sorry for the waste of a human being you are.
hahaah Paolo, I was just thinking about your response.
How fucking lame. Is that the best you could come up with? And the sad part about is, you really tried.
"Waste of a Human Being" haha, open yer mouth, I'll give you a shot of my waste....
From when you first started giving me a hard time for my system and the power it put out years ago, light years ahead of anyone to now.. You're a jealous fuck who now jumps on the band wagon of supercharging and talking up a tuner.. Remember years ago calling me names and shit saying what good is the power I have since I can't use it? News flash Paolo, I've been using it just fine for around 4 years. What were you doing? Drving a stock sled dreaming of real HP? Remember saying how my car and engine was a grenade? News Flash limp dick, it's still running and my GenI is still running too. Remember when you said my system was over priced, etc? News flash, I paid less than what you paid or pretty fucking close.
You see Paolo, I remember when you and Jamie Furman, Jason Heffner (who called all the other tuners "Looser Tuners") and yourself started shit and ganged up on me because you were jealous as fuck. Why else would you say shit like that?
Now your the first person to post "asking for a flame fest" remarks when you say shit like you do. And you wonder why people who remember shit like you said retort back. Do you see anyone else saying shit like you do on the net? You just can't stand it because whatever the fuck I'll say, I'll bring it right back in your face.
Now shut the fuck up, enjoy your supercharger and quit stroking your dick in front of everyone. Fucking asswipe of a personality... Maybe when I see you one day, I'll buy you a beer and ask you how you like your car, and perhaps you'll say you should have done it years ago...
Signed..
MR. CHUMP
p.s.
" Gerald, I already have! Is this the best you can muster after a couple of days??????"
LOL~!!!! Is that the best you could do after a couple days also?
hahaah Paolo, I was just thinking about your response.
How fucking lame. Is that the best you could come up with? And the sad part about is, you really tried.
"Waste of a Human Being" haha, open yer mouth, I'll give you a shot of my waste....
From when you first started giving me a hard time for my system and the power it put out years ago, light years ahead of anyone to now.. You're a jealous fuck who now jumps on the band wagon of supercharging and talking up a tuner.. Remember years ago calling me names and shit saying what good is the power I have since I can't use it? News flash Paolo, I've been using it just fine for around 4 years. What were you doing? Drving a stock sled dreaming of real HP? Remember saying how my car and engine was a grenade? News Flash limp dick, it's still running and my GenI is still running too. Remember when you said my system was over priced, etc? News flash, I paid less than what you paid or pretty fucking close.
You see Paolo, I remember when you and Jamie Furman, Jason Heffner (who called all the other tuners "Looser Tuners") and yourself started shit and ganged up on me because you were jealous as fuck. Why else would you say shit like that?
Now your the first person to post "asking for a flame fest" remarks when you say shit like you do. And you wonder why people who remember shit like you said retort back. Do you see anyone else saying shit like you do on the net? You just can't stand it because whatever the fuck I'll say, I'll bring it right back in your face.
Now shut the fuck up, enjoy your supercharger and quit stroking your dick in front of everyone. Fucking asswipe of a personality... Maybe when I see you one day, I'll buy you a beer and ask you how you like your car, and perhaps you'll say you should have done it years ago...
Signed..
MR. CHUMP
p.s.
" Gerald, I already have! Is this the best you can muster after a couple of days??????"
LOL~!!!! Is that the best you could do after a couple days also?
Gerald, you said, "From when you first started giving me a hard time for my system and the power it put out years ago, light years ahead of anyone to now.."
Gerald, this explains a lot...... If i remember correctly, Tony Darwin, ran your GEN-I Supercharger car in the 1/4 mile..... I believe it ran a 12.XX @ 126 or 127 MPH.....
Would I consider that to be light years ahead of anyone now??
Hmmmm...... Not a fucking chance!==> Maybe that is the same reasoning you are using to say Doug is so far ahead of the Supercharger game it is not even funny......
I believe Jamie Furman's Heffner supercharged Viper ran a 10.51 @ 129 or 130 in that same time frame... Is this the antithesis of your 'light years' comment or what?
Gerald, with this in mind, at least you got the CHUMP part right......
I will teach you more at a later date.
Just think if you took all the money you paid those bikes to lose to you.....
You might be able to buy a set of balls to go to Texas!!!
Too bad they do not have an icon for "limp dick Viper owner extraordinaire"...
I guess the reality of the CHUMP remark got to you!==> Not to mention your long ass response..... You seem to be too sensitive to really get into shit talking matches... Definitely the wrong personality profile. If I were you, I would try to get a job washing hair at the beauty salon. This seems to be a better match to your sensitive little feelings.
In order to piss with the big dogs, you have to get your leg up that high, but whenever you do that, you get kicked in your cunt! :nuts: Understand Bitch?
You said, "You see Paolo, I remember when you and Jamie Furman, Jason Heffner (who called all the other tuners "Looser Tuners") and yourself started shit and ganged up on me because you were jealous as fuck. Why else would you say shit like that?"
Gerald, you always manipulate certain statements and situations to give your weak, biased, B.S. validity. The only thing I ever broke your balls about was not driving your car fast.
You did not drive your car fast at first, but bragged about all that power you had........
You said, "I have not put my foot into it yet....."
==> Yeah, I was jealous of your incompetence in general behind the wheel of a supercharged Viper. You are like a poodle barking at a doberman having no idea you are about to be eaten alive!
I was skeptical at first about the piggyback fuel systems for the supercharger systems. Obviously they work just fine.
Gerald, To be truthful, until I had the money to do it, all I could do was DREAM that someday I could be as powerful and cool as your lame ass racing imaginary bikes.
You are a lightweight behind the wheel and actions speak louder than words TYPED{in your case}.
All you can continue to do is flap your cunt!
Quit spewing the fishy breeze, and step up to the plate and go to Texas!
You don't have the balls to race so you TYPE.
Your responding to this in any other way besides going to Texas will prove you are a spineless, trash talking little piggy that likes rolling around in the mud!
Like I have said previously, it is time to put up or SHUT UP.
I will have a passenger in my car , how about yourself, can you find someone 
enough to get in a car with you while we duke it out. I'd love to get two different videos with different prespectives [img]/images/graemlins/lurk.gif[/img] Loser buys dinner deal 
My offer stands to any Heffner car out there, time to do some real world battling instead of this internet bs [img]/images/graemlins/lurk.gif[/img] 
who's the one that's irked? Where did this attack come from?... hahahahahahahahahahah, so owned by his own words... LOL!!!!Holy shit!!! bwhahahahaha..my sides hurt.... 
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