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Old December 11th, 2012, 11:31 AM   #1
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TT viper (Oil Coolers custom install)

Hey guys.. over the next couple months.. im planning on taking out my fog lights.. and installing two oil coolers with mounted fans. I will post my temps without and with the oil coolers, as well as all install details....

Maybe this will help out us TT guys or SC guys with cooling issues.

If im not satisfied... i will also be installing a pusher fan on the other side of the rad

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Old December 11th, 2012, 11:45 AM   #2
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IIRC you will find out that the holes the fogs sit in do not get much, if any airflow thru them. Will the fans help? Who knows.


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I designed a 3 fan setup for my '01. I have a write up here on that install.

Regarding the fog holes, Sean Roe studied that and at high speed they flow air out. I'd do the fascia duct (Roe duct) first. I've done that mod too if you need more visuals.
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Old December 11th, 2012, 12:08 PM   #4
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I designed a 3 fan setup for my '01. I have a write up here on that install.

Regarding the fog holes, Sean Roe studied that and at high speed they flow air out. I'd do the fascia duct (Roe duct) first. I've done that mod too if you need more visuals.
thanks for the imput guys!!! i was thinking of mounting louver under the oil coolers... to pull the air from the ground up!!!! and the electic fans will help pull air in through the fog cutouts!!

im board.. i cant drive my car in the winter.. nothing like blowing some money on an expirmental trip.. while highly intoxicated with a welder and some high intentions maybe i will just cook an egg in a pan on the top of the engine for fun!
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Old December 11th, 2012, 12:09 PM   #5
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I designed a 3 fan setup for my '01. I have a write up here on that install.

Regarding the fog holes, Sean Roe studied that and at high speed they flow air out. I'd do the fascia duct (Roe duct) first. I've done that mod too if you need more visuals.
and as far as ur write on goes dave!!! i will be doing that if im not happy with my results i viewed ur thread like 5 months ago hahaha
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Old December 11th, 2012, 12:22 PM   #6
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The underside of the fascia is a high pressure area that would be good for ducting and reducing the lift that high pressure under the nose contributes to.

The thing that I like about my 3 fan system is, besides I designed it, is it is cheap, easy to make, and bolts on without modifying the car structurally. If you do some other trick shit, get some pics up for us fabrication junkies to drool on.
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Old December 11th, 2012, 12:26 PM   #7
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The underside of the fascia is a high pressure area that would be good for ducting and reducing the lift that high pressure under the nose contributes to.

The thing that I like about my 3 fan system is, besides I designed it, is it is cheap, easy to make, and bolts on without modifying the car structurally. If you do some other trick shit, get some pics up for us fabrication junkies to drool on.
thats what im planning haha.. to take the wasted air that flows under the fascia on each side under the fogs.. and somehow draw that air up to the oil coolers... cooling oil will take some stress off the rad and coolant system.. therefor.. hopefully lowering the temps.

if not.. it will still look cool lol
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Old December 11th, 2012, 12:29 PM   #8
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this idea is just an idea.. i havent had a chance to actually see if its possible.. but as soon as i get some blueprints.. lol .. i will shed them upon the wolves on here
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Old December 11th, 2012, 03:22 PM   #10
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i think im going try a fan setup first!!! before i try the oil cooler setup!!!

been told by a couple people to try this first!
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I installed a gen 3 cooler in my TT, just a thought- doesn't block any airflow due to it being coolant/oil vice air/oil cooler
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Old December 12th, 2012, 08:47 AM   #12
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I installed a gen 3 cooler in my TT, just a thought- doesn't block any airflow due to it being coolant/oil vice air/oil cooler
Did you gauge any temperature changes? Seems like a pretty easy mod.
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Old December 12th, 2012, 08:56 AM   #13
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I'm curious what the oil temps are, both desired and actual, versus the coolant temp. Not that one could argue against it working on the SRT, but if coolant temp is 190 and desired oil temp is 180, um... But if the actual oil temp is 210 and you could live with 190 actual, then...
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I installed a gen 3 cooler in my TT, just a thought- doesn't block any airflow due to it being coolant/oil vice air/oil cooler
very true!! easy placement and fit swap?
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I got a big front mount, and NEVER run with teh AC OFF, always on.
Iddle temps in the garage, 180
Traffic temps in 1st and 2nd gears 195
Hwy. Temps cruising, 190
A/C vent outlet temsp in traffic about 55-57 deg.
A/C outlet temps crusing 46 deg. :-)

Set up is simple:
I re-qired the stock OEM fan to run all the time on high speed with its own wiring and relay. the OEM relays and wiring gave me issues for 2 years, burnt relays, wires, and lots of on/off operation due to the relays overheating. It drove me crazy. After the new install the cooling system and A/C works beter thatn ever.

I also installed a 12" , 1200 cfm Spall fan in front of the Condenser. I this this to imporve the A/C outlet temps in traffic.

And Finally I got a bottom spoiler behind the intercooler and in front of the condenser that pushes air bcak up thru the cooling stack when the car is moving. Helps a lot.
This mod is done to all the Heffner TT cars, and it really helps!
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Just for comparison, the dual 9" Spal fans in my DIY are 708 cfm each.

OK. That was a shameless plug for my shit versus your shit.
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Soooo, if the fog light holes don't get any air flow, how do the people with side mount intercoolers make out?
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At 100+ mph they flow out. You can change that by making changes to the frontal undertray.
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Soooo, if the fog light holes don't get any air flow, how do the people with side mount intercoolers make out?
They make out great because they open up the area behind the intercooler so the pressurized air in the front fascia flows through them beautifully actually adding down force to the front of the car.

Think of the entire front end of the Viper being a giant box that accumulates so much air pressure because only a very small portion of the air that goes in the massive front opening can go through the radiator. Think of the air that does go through the radiator as a slow leak. Think of the rest of the air trapped as being drag and lift. This is why the side mounted IC's are the best possible option especially for the Vipers by a long shot for so many reasons. They don't block any air going to the radiator, you can fit more IC on the sides than in the front on gen 1-2 and you get more front end downforce at higher speeds.
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At 100+ mph they flow out. You can change that by making changes to the frontal undertray.
If you made duct work from the fog light opening to an opening in the wheel well, you wouldn't have this issue correct?

I like the idea of side mounted oil coolers, especially on a TT car with a FMIC.
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