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Old February 8th, 2006, 04:09 PM   #1
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Comp Coupe vs. 2000 Mustang Cobra R

A budy of mine, who is a huge Mustang fan, and myself got into a "heated" discussion of how a Cobra R would do against a Comp Coupe on ANY track.

He insisted that with equal tire (i.e. slicks) that a Cobra R would be more than a handful for a Comp Coupe, because "they put just as much development into it as Dodge did".

I of course, said he was drunk and doing some very heavy drugs to even think that it would even stand a chance in hell.

I know he is crazy, but I just want to get everyones input in how bad it would really be
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Old February 8th, 2006, 04:25 PM   #2
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Why do I get the feeling this "heated" discussion is akin to 12yr old kids fighting over the attributes of F1 vs e-gear. It's a fucking retarted argument to begin with, tube chassi race car vs street car, WTF.

Equal playing ground, Cobra R vs GT-2 (GTS-R, or ACR) would be a good better match. But still, how does he think a 385hp 3600lb car will compare with a 450hp 3400lb car with MUCH larger tires and at least equal lateral grip.
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Old February 8th, 2006, 04:49 PM   #3
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Why do I get the feeling this "heated" discussion is akin to 12yr old kids fighting over the attributes of F1 vs e-gear. It's a fucking retarted argument to begin with, tube chassi race car vs street car, WTF.

Equal playing ground, Cobra R vs GT-2 (GTS-R, or ACR) would be a good better match. But still, how does he think a 385hp 3600lb car will compare with a 450hp 3400lb car with MUCH larger tires and at least equal lateral grip.
He showed me a bunch of videos of a few passing vettes (not that hard), GTS Vipers at a few road courses. You know how the rest of the story goes when someone sees one car pass another car. It must mean it's faster.

He is a complete dip shit to even argue this with me, so I thought I would get some other peoples input on this as to how much faster a CC is compaired to a street car. Even a street viper.
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Old February 8th, 2006, 08:07 PM   #4
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Tell this idiot to come to Viper Days. There will be plenty of cars there and he can see for himself.

Better yet - don't.

A CC is a 3000 lb 525 HP RACE CAR - it is not a street car. It is no contest.

Tell him to get some lap times and go to www.viperracingleague.com
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Old February 8th, 2006, 08:21 PM   #5
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The Mustang doesn't stand a chance. CC's can stick to the ground pretty well.
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Old February 8th, 2006, 08:24 PM   #6
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Tell this idiot to come to Viper Days.

Tell him to get some lap times and go to www.viperracingleague.com
or look here.. http://www.viperdays.com/willow2006.html

my street car on slicks is was faster than all but one car

i cant believe you people are arguing with this g00b.
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Old February 8th, 2006, 08:35 PM   #7
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Is this a joke? A Gen II GTS will smoke a Cobra R around the track with equal drivers. And a Comp. Coupe will DESTROY a stock Gen II GTS around the track. So a Comp. Coupe and Cobra R are not even in the same league. Not even the same Zip code. Don't believe me? Read what equal driver were able to achieve on the track. First link lap times, second link full article.

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...97/pageId=3359

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=45197/
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Old February 8th, 2006, 08:36 PM   #8
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You cant argue with idiots they have to much experience.
Then they dream about there Cobra R
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Old February 10th, 2006, 09:35 PM   #9
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[quote=ROGUE GTS]tube chassi race car vs street car/QUOTE]

Sorry the Comp Coupe is not a Tube Chassis Race Car.
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Old March 30th, 2006, 08:52 AM   #10
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or look here.. http://www.viperdays.com/willow2006.html

my street car on slicks is was faster than all but one car
But all the cars up thru SuperMod are on Michelin street tires.
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Old March 30th, 2006, 11:26 AM   #12
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i hate to say it, but the CC WILL beat the Cobra R.. How much faster is the Cobra R than a reg. Cobra? I have beaten a reg Cobra thru the mountains in a '86 vette.. so.. how much faster would the cobra R be?
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Old March 30th, 2006, 04:25 PM   #13
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But all the cars up thru SuperMod are on Michelin street tires.
i thought super mod is on slicks.. besides, i was talking about unlimited.
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Old March 30th, 2006, 10:46 PM   #14
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My street car will pick up 5-9 secs with slicks vs street tires, depending on the track. Big deal.
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My street car will pick up 5-9 secs with slicks vs street tires, depending on the track. Big deal.

what does that have to do with the times that unlimited is putting up again?
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Because that's where I'd be - ahead of you.
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Old March 31st, 2006, 12:01 PM   #17
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Because that's where I'd be - ahead of you.
haha.. i knew there was a point in there somewhere.

the giant viperdays series is over for the year already out here.

i need to come to tws one of these days and take on SmackiEvo and the rest of you necks.
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Old March 31st, 2006, 09:18 PM   #18
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i need to come to tws one of these days and take on SmackiEvo and the rest of you necks.
Ha! Doubt it'll just be the Evo very much longer, but I'm not sure how much of a statement it would be to beat a 3400lb daily driven Ricer in a 500hp gutted, winged, slicked-up Vette. If you DON'T beat me, I will run it like you've never seen!

And, PS, you won't beat Dean at TWS if you both are on equal tires.
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Old May 2nd, 2006, 08:49 PM   #19
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Funny discussion.

Street car vs. race car again.
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