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Old January 15th, 2008, 08:42 AM   #1
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Detroit Auto Show - Day 1

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And I still can't beleive the R8 makes 738 ft-lbs of torque!

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Old January 15th, 2008, 08:45 AM   #2
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My god, but that car is ugly.
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An exotic diesel sports car, this car will rip a 2008 ACR and probably even the new ZR1. AWD and all that torque are going to make that car sling shot off the launch. Now just imagine what a boost controller and an exhaust system will do for this car. 650+HP and 1000+ ft-lb of torque with only bolt-ons all the while getting unheard of exotic fuel economy. This car will be a devestator to all other exotic models at the track.
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An exotic diesel sports car, this car will rip a 2008 ACR and probably even the new ZR1. AWD and all that torque are going to make that car sling shot off the launch. Now just imagine what a boost controller and an exhaust system will do for this car. 650+HP and 1000+ ft-lb of torque with only bolt-ons all the while getting unheard of exotic fuel economy. This car will be a devestator to all other exotic models at the track.
A well performing car that looks like a mutt is like an ugly woman who can fuck like a mink. Both need to be driven with the lights out.
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A well performing car that looks like a mutt is like an ugly woman who can fuck like a mink. Both need to be driven with the lights out.
LOL, yea the looks haven't quite grown on me either but you can't take away the incredible engineering behind this car. AWD+diesel V12+2 turbo's= orgasm at every WOT. That thing will leave you with a smile that a surgeon could not remove.
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LOL, yea the looks haven't quite grown on me either but you can't take away the incredible engineering behind this car. AWD+diesel V12+2 turbo's= orgasm at every WOT. That thing will leave you with a smile that a surgeon could not remove.
Leaves me with an urge to leave you with -2...
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LOL, yea the looks haven't quite grown on me either but you can't take away the incredible engineering behind this car. AWD+diesel V12+2 turbo's= orgasm at every WOT. That thing will leave you with a smile that a surgeon could not remove.
Yes, she is one fugly whore who can fuck for sure but you're still gonna have to look at her in the morning.
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Yes, she is one fugly whore who can fuck for sure but you're still gonna have to look at her in the morning.
Yes, this one is definately a 10 @ 2 A.M. but a 2 @ 10 A.M. Still, she will give you the smiles that only 18 and 19 year old girls are capable of giving men.
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Old January 15th, 2008, 10:36 AM   #10
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Im not a "man buddy" you wishful thinking queer...

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Old January 15th, 2008, 10:44 AM   #11
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Old January 15th, 2008, 11:07 AM   #12
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b) Audi claims a sprint to 60 mph will take just 4.2 seconds, and c) Despite all the horsepower, the car will still achieve 24 mpg.
Guess all that torque and AWD didn't do much for it off the line, nor in fuel economy.
Numerous viper owners have reported near 24mpg when doing cross country drives. Hell the C6 Vette gets 36mpg on the highway.

The reality is that this car is a show car and would likely be detuned by the time it hit show room floors (if at all). Sure you can always get it chipped but how long are the drivetrain parts going to hold up. Also, considering exotic car owners have enough money to pay their gas bill, being a deisel doesn't really win that many points.

Till the car is sitting on showroom floors it is all speculation anyway.
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Old January 15th, 2008, 11:30 AM   #13
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An exotic diesel sports car, this car will rip a 2008 ACR and probably even the new ZR1.
I highly doubt that....Its 500 crank hp whereas the Viper and ACR version make 540 to the wheels.....738lb tq isnt going to negate the Viper/ZR1 superior hp and weight advantage....The only competition will be from a dig after that it should be all ZR1/Viper...BTW its officially 493hp rounded off to 500hp from what I read in C&D and its going to be heavier than the R8 which was around the Vipers weight.....Its a sweet car overall but ease off the fanboy shyte and look at the cold hard numbers.......186mph top speed was already surpassed by the GTS 12 years ago with its 192mph top speed.....Every new car that comes out seems to have the fanboys declaring it a Viper beater lol.....Why dont you wait for a test between the two if you cant see the outcome just based on the numbers between them...
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Jim,

See the car in person, you'll have a completely different opinion. I guarantee it!

I was blown away by the one that I saw at last year's Chicago Autoshow. It's truly a beautiful car.

My two cents.

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Guess all that torque and AWD didn't do much for it off the line, nor in fuel economy.
Numerous viper owners have reported near 24mpg when doing cross country drives. Hell the C6 Vette gets 36mpg on the highway.

The reality is that this car is a show car and would likely be detuned by the time it hit show room floors (if at all). Sure you can always get it chipped but how long are the drivetrain parts going to hold up. Also, considering exotic car owners have enough money to pay their gas bill, being a deisel doesn't really win that many points.

Till the car is sitting on showroom floors it is all speculation anyway.
Agreed on the fuel economy, but I have to disagree with you on the drivetrain parts holding up. If it can hold 730 ft-lb of torque stock, it should be able to hold with a chip/exhaust. The car is on street tires which will spin from power but not break parts because the street tires won't grip enough to cause enough stress on the drivetrain to break it. Minimal $$$ spent in performance upgrades will yield and unlock insane numbers in that car.
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Agreed on the fuel economy, but I have to disagree with you on the drivetrain parts holding up. If it can hold 730 ft-lb of torque stock, it should be able to hold with a chip/exhaust. The car is on street tires which will spin from power but not break parts because the street tires won't grip enough to cause enough stress on the drivetrain to break it. Minimal $$$ spent in performance upgrades will yield and unlock insane numbers in that car.

AWD and Street tires is more than enough to break parts. Just ask any DSM or 3000GT/Stealth owner.
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AWD and Street tires is more than enough to break parts. Just ask any DSM or 3000GT/Stealth owner.
Yeah, ask FastMatt. He doesnt post here anymore as far as I know but he owns Dynamic Racing out in New Mexico. Very well respected and record holding DSM guy, who at one point had a Viper that he beat the shit out of with propane that I think Ekool ended up with. I think he had/has a 94 or so ZR1 with some goodies also.
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AWD and Street tires is more than enough to break parts. Just ask any DSM or 3000GT/Stealth owner.
We're talking about an Audi here with a price tag over $100K, pretty much the daddy of the most advanced AWD systems. The Audi will have refined parts that will be up to the task. Now Mitsubishi is known for it's TV's, and they have decent cars with inferior AWD systems made with flimsy parts. These cars (DSM's and 3000gts) were priced $20k-$40K respectfully. With drivetrain upgrades, they can be bullet proof and launch like crazy. These cars are mass produced and are not assembled by hand. The Audi on the other hand, is a hand crafted work of art and it's drivetrain is decades ahead of Mitsubishi's in build quality and technology.
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Holy shit... I could have never predicted... Theres been countless F-body, Vette, Supra, ricer, and even Mercedes type invasionists, but AUDI??? This is an Alley first...
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