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Old April 24th, 2006, 06:59 PM   #1
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Laser cruise control setting of v1

Anyone having a problem with the infiniti's laser cruise control setting off the valentine v1..it's happened infront of an fx and qx....maybe i just need to speed up
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Old May 27th, 2006, 11:29 AM   #2
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Anyone having a problem with the infiniti's laser cruise control setting off the valentine v1..it's happened infront of an fx and qx....maybe i just need to speed up
Mike Valentine, the inventor of the Valentine One, had this to say about your situation. He is known as "W8MM" over at the Porsche forums.

http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/s...threadid=21599

"The Trailblazer/Envoy thing is caused by neon in the CHMSL. It's a tough nut to crack. The ignition repetition rate is in the many kHz range, which is far outside the normal laser gun rate. However, there is a "squegging" of the neon plasma that occurs at a hundreds-per-second rate that fools the laser detection circuits, since these events repeat in the expected time range for police laser pulses. We're working on this (and have been for years), but there's nothing to report as yet.

A growing-bigger problem now seems to be laser assisted "Intelligent" cruise controls on Infinity FX35, FX45, and QX56 SUVs. What a PItA. They perfectly replicate laser speed-gun signals. We're working on that one, too!"


http://valentine1.com/lab/Previously7.asp

"Why am I getting laser alarms when I follow some cars?
- J.J., Michigan


Red neon is occasionally used for the CHMSL (Center High Mounted Stop Lamp) on new cars. We know of these models: GM Trailblazer and Envoy, the Lincoln Mk VIII and the latest BMW 3-series convertible.

These lights use a neon-plasma light source. The red lens allows red visible light to pass, and also invisible energy near infrared. The source is powered by a pulsating voltage on a frequency that happens to be similar to the repetition rate of legitimate laser-gun pulse trains. In other words, the CHMSLs have an invisible energy leakage that’s nearly identical to the beam used by traffic laser. If we suppress the interference, we’re likely to damage laser sensitivity.

Another source of alarms: a few new cars have cruise controls that use laser to measure distance to the car ahead. This feature is available on the Lexus LS430, Infiniti FX35 and FX45. This, of course, is real laser, not a false alarm."
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Anyone know what it means when the V1 is giving a brief radar warning then instantly makes a different beep sound and the display reads and flashes the letter "J"?

I get that maybe once a day, never figured out what it means.

i love this thing. saved my ass countless times.
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Anyone know what it means when the V1 is giving a brief radar warning then instantly makes a different beep sound and the display reads and flashes the letter "J"?

I get that maybe once a day, never figured out what it means.

i love this thing. saved my ass countless times.
http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/s...threadid=21599

This is what Mike Valentine (W8MM) said about the "J" function on the Valentine One.

"A New Warning

V1 has a new feature. When the signal identification system determines that a current warning is not, in fact, a radar threat, it notifies you with a "dee-dah-doo" sound and terminates the warning. At the same time, the letter "J" will flash briefly in the Bogey Counter."


"J" stands for "J"unk signal.

OK, why did we add this new feature? Because it was the best way to give beyond-line-of-sight warning capability for POP-radar signals while not burdening the user with an excess of unresolved alerts (false alarms).

POP signals are short bursts of radar that last only some tens of milliseconds. They are made short in an effort to escape the notice of radar detectors. Simply speeding up the search process of a detector allows high probability-of-intercept for the POP transmissions but introduces another nasty problem -- microwave interference generated by radar detectors in other vehicles causing false alarms.

There are many hundreds of thousands of certain model BEL, Cobra, Radio Shack, and Uniden detectors that manage to transmit radar-like signals that mimic POP bursts to an infuriating degree. They litter the airwaves with interference bursts on the same, exact frequency as, and similar duration to, a real POP-radar signal. Without some way of fending off these "J"unk signals, a detector would constantly nag its user with false alarms from these poorly designed "poluters" in other cars.

The common method of reducing the number of false POP alarms used by our competition is to reduce the sensitivity to POP signals (and their Junk kin) while leaving longer-lasting (over half a second) signals unmolested. This method requires reducing POP-radar range to line-of-sight-only distances in order to give enough relief from detector-generated false alarms to be worthwhile. I wasn't satisfied with only line-of-sight range for POP radar reception, so we pushed for a better solution.

I did nearly 10,000 miles of development driving, dodging speed traps and logging false alarm situations, while our engineers reorganised and optimised the false alarm rejection methods we finally chose. After lengthy deliberations, we realized that it was almost impossible to prevent every POP-like false alarm without taking too large a hit in POP-radar over-the-hill range. I decided that letting in a few POP-junk false alarms initially that were later announced to be "J"unk was less of a problem than not finding out about a POP radar until too late. I hope you'll agree."
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Mike Valentine, the inventor of the Valentine One, had this to say about your situation. He is known as "W8MM" over at the Porsche forums.

http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/s...threadid=21599

"The Trailblazer/Envoy thing is caused by neon in the CHMSL.
Nice, I knew that happened, Just didn't know why.
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