DETROIT -- Ford Motor Co. is using a time-tested but unusual repair method to fix an engine oil leak in its flagship GT sports car. It is telling dealership mechanics to install a "Speedi-Sleeve" to stop oil from leaking from the crankshaft rear seal. It is one of several fixes being prescribed for the GT when the car goes into the shop for a major suspension recall.
I know it says the sleeve is time tested but how would you guys feel if it were your car?
Well, you can put a fancy shell over that truck engine, but it is still a Ford. At least dodge doesn't make any bones about the fact that the Viper is simple in concept. Sure it has many high tech construction features, but at the end of the day, I think dodge is proud of the fact that the Viper gets back to the roots of a sports car. Hence the reason Jay Leno says it is the only modern car he likes.
Yeah, I know he has them. He still collects important cars. I am sure he likes them as well. He wrote an article on the Ford GT in Popular Mechanics as well. But he still says that the Viper is his favorite car. Come on, if you made that much money a year, maybe someone here does, wouldn't you buy them?
While I won't defend the Dodge over the Ford (yikes), Leno owns one of the VCA SRT-10's according to what we were told in Dallas. Of course it is probably for minor eye candy - the SRT isn't a real Viper. :thumb:
Most cars have recalls... but at issue here are some fairly significant problems. I was very tempted to give up on the MSRP correction wait and prob would have had a client in Europe not come up. Feeling pretty lucky now.
I still feel it is an amazing car but perhaps it was rushed to market a bit premature.
There is a 5.4 SOHC in the lightning and in the regular F150/F250. These engines have iron blocks, 16V, cast crank, ect.
The engine in the GT is a TOTALLY redesigned alum block, 32V heads, steel crank, forged pistons, provisons for oil spray on the bottom side of the piston, dry sump, ect, ect.
100% totally different engines. THe only thing the two have in common is bore X stroke. That is as far as the simularities go.
Saying the motor in the ford GT is a truck engine is worse than saying the 4.6 SOHC in a 93 crown victoria is the same as the 4.6 DOHC in the 04 Cobra.
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Originally Posted by Boiler
Isn't the engine in the Lightning a 5.4? Not saying it is the same engine just wondering.
The 5.4 DOHC IS a truck engine. Do you think they just started building them for 300 Cobra Rs in 2000? Not very economically sound. The 5.4 DOHC has been factory installed in every Licoln Navigator produced since late 1999. It makes 300HP in Navigator trim; all Ford did was beef up the bottom end and slap a blower on it to put it in the GT. They did the same thing with the Lightning (5.4 SOHC in the regular F-150s), and the Cobra (basically the same 4.6 DOHC from the 1996-up Cobras, but originally installed in the Lincoln Mark VIIIs!). Yes, I am a new Viper owner. Yes, I am a stupid asshole. Yes, I make probably a third of the average income of Alley members. But I do know a little about Mustangs...I have had 5, plus 2 Lightnings.
The 5.4 DOHC IS a truck engine. Do you think they just started building them for 300 Cobra Rs in 2000? Not very economically sound. The 5.4 DOHC has been factory installed in every Licoln Navigator produced since late 1999. It makes 300HP in Navigator trim; all Ford did was beef up the bottom end and slap a blower on it to put it in the GT. They did the same thing with the Lightning (5.4 SOHC in the regular F-150s), and the Cobra (basically the same 4.6 DOHC from the 1996-up Cobras, but originally installed in the Lincoln Mark VIIIs!). Yes, I am a new Viper owner. Yes, I am a stupid asshole. Yes, I make probably a third of the average income of Alley members. But I do know a little about Mustangs...I have had 5, plus 2 Lightnings.
Matt
P.S. What's a windbreaker?
It is idiots like you that think since they have owned _____ car that they know everything about them and everyone should quit down to listen to their voice.
Now before anyone goes spouting off that the engine in the ford GT is JUST a truck engine, they better get some facts straight and do some research. Do not be like everyother uneducated idiot that thinks just because they share the same displacement, and same # of valves that they are the same engine.
There is not but a handfull of parts from the navi/cobra R engine that can be located in the Ford GT. THe motor in the Cobra R IS somewhat close to the Navi engine. I will give you that one, but the engine components from the Ford GT are strictly for this specific car. The block is totally redesigned and not even close to any other production 5.4 Block ford makes. Just a couple big differences pertaining to the GT block that offer: there are built in oil sprayers that spray the bottom of hte piston to cool it, MUCH beefier design, aluminium construction different starter position, bosses for dry sump mounting.
The heads are somewhat simular to the coveted and rare Cobra R heads. Both of these heads are far superior to that of any 4.6 DOHC or 5.4DOHC head ford manufactures--even the FR500 heads.
These engines are torque plate honed from the factory, feature dry sump lubrication that WILL NOT work on any of the other modular engines w/o serious modification, forged pistons, manley rods, ect, ect.
Do not preach to me about what's what on an engine platform that I have spent the last 5 years of my life building and racing. You may have owned a mustang or two but I have totally dissassmbled and rebuilt a multitude of Modular 4-cam engines.
The new Ford GT engine IS TOTALLY different whether some people want to realize it or not. It is not JUST some truck engine.
I have owned/rebuilt/modified 4 mark VIII's, 2 cobra's, and activly raced half of them.