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Old December 9th, 2012, 12:02 PM   #1
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New M5 vs GTR

That's pretty impressive for a mid size 4 door sedan..

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Old December 9th, 2012, 12:09 PM   #2
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I love M cars, just hate their resale value.
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Old December 9th, 2012, 12:20 PM   #3
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Pretty impressive considering the M5 is a 4 door.
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Old December 9th, 2012, 12:24 PM   #4
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This is not good.

BMW recalling 2013 M5, M6 models over potential catastrophic engine failures
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Old December 9th, 2012, 12:29 PM   #5
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i love the M6's. but this car is impressive
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Old December 9th, 2012, 01:03 PM   #6
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I think they're getting 100 hp out of the tunes on the new TT m cars. If the SUV can tow I may go look at one.
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Old December 9th, 2012, 02:38 PM   #7
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You know what else is impressive?


Yes, the M5 launch is not-so-good and it starts pulling at the end, but the Tesla won 2 out of 3 showing that consistency is often the deciding factor on the street.
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Old December 9th, 2012, 02:41 PM   #8
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^^^ The Tesla is better looking for sure. I've seen the interior and it is awesome.
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Old December 9th, 2012, 03:00 PM   #9
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I want one badly...need to acquire more currency. Or I could just go into massive debt like most of America and be bailed out...

I might wait for the 2015 "Blustar" they are coming out with. It's gonna be a 3 series competitor. Should be priced starting around 30. Batteries are getting cheap too. Envia's stuff should bring 300-400 mile range at totally reasonable price.
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Old December 9th, 2012, 03:54 PM   #10
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Biggest thing for me about the Tesla is that I wouldn't be able to take it in a long road trip. I like them a lot but will want to see improvements to range and recharge time before I would buy one.

M5 is a monster but looks completely bland.
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Old December 9th, 2012, 04:02 PM   #11
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Biggest thing for me about the Tesla is that I wouldn't be able to take it in a long road trip. I like them a lot but will want to see improvements to range and recharge time before I would buy one.

M5 is a monster but looks completely bland.
The Superchargers already cover road trips within Cali and out to Vegas. Within 2 years they'll cover the greatest part of the nation. Those give you around 3 hours of driving time in 50 minutes. Stop to get something to eat, take a whiz, or stretch your legs. Will it satisfy the hard core road tripper? Probably not if you do it all the time, but for the odd trip, seems fine to me.
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Old December 9th, 2012, 04:35 PM   #12
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Performance is quick, but plenty of drivers have already stated the cars are even more numb and bloated feeling then before, even against the current V it had the edge in performance but the V was still the pick for way more fun to drive. I can't believe BMW now has 'artificial synthesized' engine sounds blared through the speakers now lol. And it looks like a 7 series now, which actually I think the 5 series is based on the 7s platform. Go fig, Benz is on a roll, new cars just drive so sharp and still have that raw edgy feel. Benz models now are more fun the BMW, pretty crazy.

More interested in what GM does with the next V.
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Old December 9th, 2012, 04:54 PM   #13
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Yeah, BMW definitely has been laying some turds for some time now.
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Old December 9th, 2012, 05:11 PM   #14
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The Superchargers already cover road trips within Cali and out to Vegas. Within 2 years they'll cover the greatest part of the nation. Those give you around 3 hours of driving time in 50 minutes. Stop to get something to eat, take a whiz, or stretch your legs. Will it satisfy the hard core road tripper? Probably not if you do it all the time, but for the odd trip, seems fine to me.
hows the battery life doing these "quick charges" all the time?
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Old December 9th, 2012, 05:35 PM   #15
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hows the battery life doing these "quick charges" all the time?
It's fine. Supercharger talks to the battery management system to regulate charge rate with cell temperature. Tesla has said there is no degradation at all. First 50% is charged at 90 kW and then 50-80 tapers down. That last 20% tapers further, so it makes sense to not necessarily go for a 100% charge.
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As long as they can find a way to get almost a full charge in say 20 minutes or less, I think the cars will become more more mainstream. Still, it' won't be something you can coast to coast for many years I think.
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I wonder which model year r35 that was versus the new m5... Being that they range about 50hp

This weekend I spent some significant wheel time with a decently modified r35 with built trans.. The way those things move out from a stop is just going to murder anything that doesn't also have AWD and make its shifts so fucking fast... At least at a stop light. My car pulls harder on top than the gtr I was driving... But at a stop light forget it, I'll be wrestling my shifter and wheelspin and this gtr would be a block away before I'm moving

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I wonder which model year r35 that was versus the new m5... Being that they range about 50hp

This weekend I spent some significant wheel time with a decently modified r35 with built trans.. The way those things move out from a stop is just going to murder anything that doesn't also have AWD and make its shifts so fucking fast... At least at a stop light. My car pulls harder on top than the gtr I was driving... But at a stop light forget it, I'll be wrestling my shifter and wheelspin and this gtr would be a block away before I'm moving
I wondered that myself. The newer GTRs are quite a bit faster than the old ones.
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You know what else is impressive?

Tesla Model S vs BMW M5 Drag Race - YouTube

Yes, the M5 launch is not-so-good and it starts pulling at the end, but the Tesla won 2 out of 3 showing that consistency is often the deciding factor on the street.
Until they produce a kryptonite ion battery. I'll stick with a petrol powered car.
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Love these cars, and seriously considering buying one. But Im with Rocman. No way you can own this car. You have to lease it..... And just know your pissing away (roughly) $1500/month on a car., and decide if its worth it to you, based on that.

If you write a $105k check for this car... You'll be lucky if you get $50k back in 36 months.. Thats assuming low miles, and youve kept it mint.. $40s if it was a daily driver.

I was quoted $1388/mo on a $106k msrp car, for 39mo lease.. But you add back taxes,etc,etc, and your pretty darn close to $1500
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