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Old September 18th, 2003, 02:34 PM   #1
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Who believes in fate?

In the last 3 weeks I have run into an old neighbor(from 8 years ago and in a different town) on 3 sepearte occasions. All this after never seeing him in the whole 8 years

Me thinks fate is throwing us together for some reason- he recently sold off his company and retired, but is now bored and looking for a new biz to start. I think I need to take him out to lunch and throw some ideas on the table.
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Old September 18th, 2003, 02:36 PM   #2
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Old September 18th, 2003, 02:37 PM   #3
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And what makes you think this is anything more than good old fashioned coincidence?
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Old September 18th, 2003, 02:40 PM   #4
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And what makes you think this is anything more than good old fashioned coincidence?
Fate presents opportunities to those that are prepared.
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Old September 18th, 2003, 02:42 PM   #5
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3 times in such a short period of time after such a long break. The first 2 meetings were like the next day. Just seems like a long shot coincidence. Not saying that fate is the only guiding force in my life, but this is a little erie.
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Old September 18th, 2003, 02:43 PM   #7
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Interesting. Remember T2? Sarah Conner had some sort of saying that she said John Conner told her from the future. It was something like "No Fate" So the whole movie you are thinking that you make your own future. Then T3 rolls around and the movie ends with John Conner talking about how despite their efforts to shape the future, any efforts are futile. The future will happen as it sees fit and there is nothing you can do to prevent the inevitable. What did I learn from these movies?

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Old September 18th, 2003, 02:54 PM   #9
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And what makes you think this is anything more than good old fashioned coincidence?
Fate presents opportunities to those that are prepared.

Nothing of the sort! If you believe in fate then there are no opportunities. Everything is preset for you and whether you jump at your friend's opportunity or not is out of your hands. Inshallah.
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Old September 18th, 2003, 03:01 PM   #11
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Old September 18th, 2003, 03:07 PM   #12
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Old September 18th, 2003, 03:11 PM   #13
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What if the quantum physics theory is right and there are an infinity of parallel universes constantly spawning off from every choice, action, inaction and event in our present. I choose not to mock this stupid thread by flicking a booger at the screen, yet that is a decision, a forking of the road such that at that instant another parallel universe is spawned off in which Serious does flick the booger. Now that universe is going forward alongside of ours and it too is spawning off it's own infinite replication of possible futures.

If this is true and there are real simultaneous futures for every possible permutation of events then there is no fate. We are simply narrow-mindedly living one branch of an infinitely wide timeline.
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Old September 18th, 2003, 03:30 PM   #14
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If this is true and there are real simultaneous futures for every possible permutation of events then there is no fate. We are simply narrow-mindedly living one branch of an infinitely wide timeline.
So a few minutes ago when I needed to fart but didn't...did I unknowingly kill some group of people living on a planet that smells like farts?

Just curious. Your statement really has me thinking.

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Old September 18th, 2003, 03:33 PM   #15
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If this is true and there are real simultaneous futures for every possible permutation of events then there is no fate. We are simply narrow-mindedly living one branch of an infinitely wide timeline.
So a few minutes ago when I needed to fart but didn't...did I kill some group of people living on a planet that smells like farts?

Just curious. Your statement really has me thinking.

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Probably not in the alternate "Clark Farts" universe that was spawned at that moment. In that one you may have killed a colleague or two in the office but I doubt that fart would've been so catastrophic as to destroy some other planet. If it was then my thanks go out to you for holding back.
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The theory of "multiverse" really is just a way of decoding how "in time" we may have made choices. We are simply living one branch in an infinitely wide timeline. Only those types of "altering" decisions would likely spawn off new lines.

So, had that bugger been slimy and stuck to the screen you would have had to clean it off. Thus taking time and altering your day by a few minutes- enough to maybe cause you to get a speeding ticket by being "in the wrong place at the wrong time". A new line is formed. Now you have to spend 15 minutes with Officer friendly, 2 minutes swearing at his back as he walks back to the cruiser, and 8 hours in traffic school to erase the ticket, and your life is forever altered.

But, if your nugget were simply a dried out piece of inhaled lint which bounced off the screen, then your microsecond action would have no bearing on either my day or yours, and it would have simply been a "bend" in your existing timeline.

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The theory of "multiverse" really is just a way of decoding how "in time" we may have made choices. We are simply living one branch in an infinitely wide timeline. Only those types of "altering" decisions would likely spawn off new lines.

So, had that bugger been slimy and stuck to the screen you would have had to clean it off. Thus taking time and altering your day by a few minutes- enough to maybe cause you to get a speeding ticket by being "in the wrong place at the wrong time". A new line is formed. Now you have to spend 15 minutes with Officer friendly, 2 minutes swearing at his back as he walks back to the cruiser, and 8 hours in traffic school to erase the ticket, and your life is forever altered.

But, if your nugget were simply a dried out piece of inhaled lint which bounced off the screen, then your microsecond action would have no bearing on either my day or yours, and it would have simply been a "bend" in your existing timeline.

So keep your fingers out of your nose [img]/images/graemlins/applause.gif[/img] and on the keyboard.
The theory is misrepresented when it's applied in a human-centric focus. Humanity is not the only aspect of the universe that is uncertain. Electrons may be in one place or they may be in another ... multiverse instantiations can spawn from this level as well.
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Old September 18th, 2003, 03:41 PM   #18
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Probably not in the alternate "Clark Farts" universe that was spawned at that moment. In that one you may have killed a colleague or two in the office but I doubt that fart would've been so catastrophic as to destroy some other planet. If it was then my thanks go out to you for holding back.
I'm beginning to understand your logic. :thumb: I can already feel the heavy load of responsibility that goes with actually spawning an entire alternate universe. My life is changed. From now on I will always consider my actions and how it is affecting those subjects that I have created.

I am complete...and my flatulence has given me subjects that I may rule with a stern but honest fist.

Thanks Serious.
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I say you make your own fate. Sometimes $hit happens though
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