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Old September 8th, 2008, 11:49 AM   #1
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Buying up Freddie/Fannie stocks?

With the gov't intervention this weekend Freddie and Fannie stocks have plummeted to $1.

Anybody scooping this stuff up for a rebound? Or will they crash completely out and leave the holders with nothing?
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Old September 8th, 2008, 01:09 PM   #2
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With the gov't intervention this weekend Freddie and Fannie stocks have plummeted to $1.

Anybody scooping this stuff up for a rebound? Or will they crash completely out and leave the holders with nothing?
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Old September 8th, 2008, 01:33 PM   #3
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Worthless right now...........


Freddie and Fannie, which serve a government mission to support housing, were put in a conservatorship that allows their stock to keep trading but puts common shareholders last in line in any claims.
With bond holders likely to be long-term beneficiaries of the take-over.
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Old September 9th, 2008, 02:15 AM   #4
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But with the government guaranteeing to support them and keep them in business until things turn around it would seem like a good time to buy.

Please educate.
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Old September 9th, 2008, 10:06 AM   #5
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I thought the same thing when Worldcom went to 18 cents. They still had a large customer base and huge government contracts. The stockholders got zip.

I thought the same thing when Value Jet crashed in the everglades and the stock plummeted. They were both insured and very cash rich at the time. Who knew they would become the FAA whipping boys for poor and fraudulent maintenance and were shipping explosive air cannisters without emptying them?

This stock will be worth zip. The private mortgage business has been nationalized just the same as when the Venezuelan government took over oil production.

This is part of the US move toward a free market economy and less government intervention in business.
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Old September 9th, 2008, 02:19 PM   #6
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Both stocks fell below $1 yesterday with the top five Fannie and Freddie shareholders together losing $2.3 billion. These include some mutual funds and hedge funds that were betting on the govt. to rescue stockholders , they were wrong and lost their collective asses............
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I wonder if Devil Dog was betting the house on this also............
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Well, no one has truly lost money until they sell the stock. If you buy a stock at $10 and it goes down to $1 and then back to $10. You didn't make money and you didn't lose money.

However if a stock goes from $4 to $1 and you can pick it up for $1 and it goes to $2 you double your money and they lose half of their money.
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Old September 9th, 2008, 02:57 PM   #9
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Well, no one has truly lost money until they sell the stock. If you buy a stock at $10 and it goes down to $1 and then back to $10. You didn't make money and you didn't lose money.

However if a stock goes from $4 to $1 and you can pick it up for $1 and it goes to $2 you double your money and they lose half of their money.

Holy Crap! Ya learn something new every day.
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Last October, they were trading, respectively, at $68.60 and $65.88 , be glad you did not buy then. I think they are both up a few cents today.
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Even defunct stock may have some minimal value if they have tax losses that can be carried forward to a buying firm or if someone wants to buy the corporate shell to get the stock listing without the hassel of going through the FEC approval process.

My bet is still zippo!
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Well, no one has truly lost money until they sell the stock. If you buy a stock at $10 and it goes down to $1 and then back to $10. You didn't make money and you didn't lose money.

However if a stock goes from $4 to $1 and you can pick it up for $1 and it goes to $2 you double your money and they lose half of their money.
Well duh! Thanks for explaining that to us all!
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The reason I said that is I always hear my friend whining about how much money he has lost on his house, but he hasn't sold it. I have asked him if he plans to sell it anytime soon and he says no. I keep trying to tell him he really hasn't lost anything if he isn't planning on selling it, but he just doesn't understand.
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Did you see the severance packages those cocksucking CEO's got? What the fuck is wrong with this country? They should be sitting in jail for mismanagement instead of getting a paid lifetime vacation.
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Did you see the severance packages those cocksucking CEO's got? What the fuck is wrong with this country? They should be sitting in jail for mismanagement instead of getting a paid lifetime vacation.
I mentioned it before and wish I could find what article it was again, but there was a mag (maybe Forbes?) that had a comparo of best vs worst performing CEO's. The worst performing CEO's did basically jack shit, companies almost in ruins etc, yet were paid insane salaries and bonuses or severance packages. The CEO's that were the best performing for the most part had salaries a fraction of the worst performing guys and some had companies of similar size, yet they continue to improve business year after year etc. We have a f'd up country
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I went ahead and scooped up a bunch of the Freddie stocks at $0.62 after the $700B bailout was announced.

It's trading today at $1.89 a share. So far so good.
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Government paid health care = bad
Government paid Freddy & Fanny = good

I'm for less governemnt, not more, but what a fucked up situation.
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I maybe the bad guy here but I bought some of it yesterday. Hell I'm going to take a shoot at it. Hell you only loose money on paper correct...that is until you sell!
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I went ahead and scooped up a bunch of the Freddie stocks at $0.62 after the $700B bailout was announced.

It's trading today at $1.89 a share. So far so good.
triple your money in a day. Pretty good investment.
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