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Old July 8th, 2007, 02:43 PM   #21
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plenty of serial killers and maniacs outside the USA may as well count them in also, Crazy is Crazy doesnt matter where
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plenty of serial killers and maniacs outside the USA may as well count them in also, Crazy is Crazy doesnt matter where
I agree crazy is crazy. I was only pointing out that over time here in the US the crazy has now gotten into black kids, as it has been reported elsewhere that these kids were black. Up until this time I have never heard of black people doing this type of shit. This is a race issue only in the context presented here in this discussion, not in the case at hand, and not a racist issue as some may want to turn this into here on the alley. I believe I was defending black people in my statements and highlighting the evil ways of the white people. There are certain barometers people use in societies to measure themselves and with me this was one of them.
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I did forget about the VT guy, but IIRC he was recently immigrated here, was he not? If not, then we have declined even further then I thought.
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I never hear about stuff like this happening anywhere else in the world. Is that Americans are just that fucked up in the head? Who the fuck even thinks about stuff like this and then can get 9 other people to follow through with them. It boggles my mind.
I don't know, I found this indisputable evidence of Black people doing crazy gun violence back as far as 1941:
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I agree crazy is crazy. I was only pointing out that over time here in the US the crazy has now gotten into black kids, as it has been reported elsewhere that these kids were black. Up until this time I have never heard of black people doing this type of shit. This is a race issue only in the context presented here in this discussion, not in the case at hand, and not a racist issue as some may want to turn this into here on the alley. I believe I was defending black people in my statements and highlighting the evil ways of the white people. There are certain barometers people use in societies to measure themselves and with me this was one of them.
I think there are messed up people all over the world but I think we can take a look at Africa and show this is not new to people who have been introduced to it here in America ---


Over the last 10 years, at least eighteen countries in Africa have been consumed by war, usually internal. At present there are several active conflicts in Africa-they are Cote d’Ivoire, the Darfur region of Sudan, Northern Uganda, Burundi, and the Democratic Republic of Congo.

There appears to be an inverse relationship between the body of treaties, laws, and conventions aimed at protecting civilians during a time of war, and the degree to which they are deliberately targeted by both state and non-state actors. The methods they employ include mass slaughter, the use of terror, ethnic cleansing, and forced migration. The goal of war is often the exploitation of natural resources, and the creation of chaos is the means to achieve it. These wars are increasingly fought by forced recruits, often children who are ripped away from their families and turned into killers.
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Hmmm, I always thought that when color is brought into the conversation(like this one) in a comparative sense, it then becomes an attempt to make the issue racial.
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Since early 2003, tens of thousands of civilians have been assaulted, raped and killed, hundreds of villages destroyed, and approximately 2 million people forcibly displaced by the conflict. Several issues, including broad immunity provisions for members of the armed forces, national security agencies and police, and laws making prosecution of sexual violence difficult, create roadblocks for effective national prosecutions in Sudan. In order for a case to be considered inadmissible before the ICC, a state must show that it is genuinely willing and able to prosecute the crimes in national courts.
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I think there are messed up people all over the world but I think we can take a look at Africa and show this is not new to people who have been introduced to it here in America ---


Over the last 10 years, at least eighteen countries in Africa have been consumed by war, usually internal. At present there are several active conflicts in Africa-they are Cote d’Ivoire, the Darfur region of Sudan, Northern Uganda, Burundi, and the Democratic Republic of Congo.

There appears to be an inverse relationship between the body of treaties, laws, and conventions aimed at protecting civilians during a time of war, and the degree to which they are deliberately targeted by both state and non-state actors. The methods they employ include mass slaughter, the use of terror, ethnic cleansing, and forced migration. The goal of war is often the exploitation of natural resources, and the creation of chaos is the means to achieve it. These wars are increasingly fought by forced recruits, often children who are ripped away from their families and turned into killers.


Two totally different scenarios to me.

I must be thinking on another page then others here, if I offended someone I apoligize, I will drop the thread now.
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Two totally different scenarios to me.

I must be thinking on another page then others here, if I offended someone I apoligize, I will drop the thread now.
No it is not that, but there are fucked up people all over the world and to look at this and say these young kids would not have done these type things until introduced to "white kids" or culture is assinign.


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Uganda Idi Amin

Idi Amin Dada (mid-1920s[1]–16 August 2003) was an army officer and president of Uganda. Amin joined the British colonial regiment, the King's African Rifles, in 1946, and advanced to the rank of Major General and Commander of the Ugandan Army. He deposed Milton Obote and took power in a military coup in January 1971. His reign was characterised by human rights abuses, political repression, ethnic persecution, extrajudicial killings and the expulsion of Asians from Uganda. The number of people killed as a result of his regime is unknown; estimates range from 80,000 to 500,000.[2]

Amin granted himself a number of grandiose titles, and for a period in 1977 to 1979 he was titled "His Excellency President for Life, Field Marshal Al Hadji Doctor[3] Idi Amin Dada, VC,[4] DSO, MC, CBE.[5]"[2]

Dissent within Uganda and Amin's attempt to annex a section of Tanzania in 1978 led to the Uganda-Tanzania War and the fall of his regime in 1979. He fled to Saudi Arabia and lived there until his death on August 16, 2003. Amin and his regime have been the subject of films and documentaries including Rise and Fall of Idi Amin (1980) and The Last King of Scotland (2006).
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even Nelson Mandela's wife Winnie had ordered some wonderful violence on other Africans who opposed their ideals with the incredible act of "Necklacing", and other lovely deeds

for those that dont know it consists of putting a tire around somones neck and filling the inside rim of the tire with gasoline or someother flamable liquid and then setting the tire ablaze around the victims neck!!!
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You guys are too easy.

But seriously, when was the last time you heard of a black serial killer or an asian serial killer? I don't think I ever have heard of one before, they are all white. When was the last time you heard of a black woman drowning her kids, hanging her kids, etc?


If I am wrong in my words prove me wrong, but it would be hard to do.


I normally hear about black women who pimp there kids out at 11. This happens daily in the country. Black women sucking any and all cocks they could find to support there crack habit while there kids are starving and sometimes watching. These crimes extend beyond color but mostly are committed by blacks. Jails are filled with mostly blacks why? James your examples suck.

I feel like you are going AL Sharpton on us.


Tell us how you really feel James. I grew up in an integrated city and your very thoughts would make the educated black man cringe.
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No it is not that, but there are fucked up people all over the world and to look at this and say these young kids would not have done these type things until introduced to "white kids" or culture is assinign.
I am not looking all over the world, only in the US. And I don't think I said that they did this because they were introduced to white people, at least that is not what meant to say if I did.

My only point that obviously was missed in this thread, was up until this point in time, I have never heard of any black kids doing these types of things, only white kids.
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I am more racially diversed in my family than most people in this country and don't have a racist bone in me, I only speak the truth with things I see.

If I am wrong in my words prove me wrong, but it would be hard to do.
Obviously you haven't been "seeing" Africa much lately.

Couple infamous white dudes kill a few dozen people, couple million black dudes commit to the ongoing and endless wholesale slaughter of millions of women and children...pretty comparable.

People of all colors do fucked up shit, but if we're talking modern world, the black man has lapped the field in the race to commit horrors on his fellow man at a very personal level.
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I normally hear about black women who pimp there kids out at 11. This happens daily in the country. Black women sucking any and all cocks they could find to support there crack habit while there kids are starving and sometimes watching. These crimes extend beyond color but mostly are committed by blacks. Jails are filled with mostly blacks why? James your examples suck.

I feel like you are going AL Sharpton on us.


Tell us how you really feel James. I grew up in an integrated city and your very thoughts would make the educated black man cringe.
I thought I just did tell everyone how I felt.

I don't put what these kids did in the same boat as some women sucking dick to support her crack habit as drugs don't discriminate and all races do the same in regards to drugs.

This type of crime has very deep physcological roots that I have never seen before in black kids. There may have been some black serial killers, but white vs. black serial killers is got to be somewhere 100-1. Show me another case of 10 black kids doing something as henious as this crime? I honestly have never heard of a case as bad as this before involving black kids or any other race here in the US. I could give a fuck about what happens in the other countires so save those examples for a thread that I start involving screwed up world leaders, it is not for this thread.



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