The H1 Hummer is the only Hummer I'd ever even think of buying. The H2 & H3 are just wannabes as far as I'm concerned. BUt sales are so low on the H1 they may discontinue it.
Anything but an H1 is a Poser Vehicle. The world is full of Posers. The H1 is such an intensely capable off-road vehicle that is a rather poorly-mannered road vehicle. Nobody wants that...
yes it's the same chassis but technically it is a HUMMV. i really thought i wanted an H1 and was prepared to buy, then i went and drove the thing. It rode like the huge truck that it is, or like an ironing board on wheels that thing is just plain RAW and has the ergonomics of, well i cant even think of anything else as bad. dont get me wrong they are extremely capable off road and utility machines, assuming the trail does not get too skinny.
If I lived further north, I'd consider on if the hummv. It would be used almost constantly and there are some roads that are next to impossible to go thru during mud season.
The H1 Hummer is the only Hummer I'd ever even think of buying. The H2 & H3 are just wannabes as far as I'm concerned. BUt sales are so low on the H1 they may discontinue it.
Anything but an H1 is a Poser Vehicle. The world is full of Posers. The H1 is such an intensely capable off-road vehicle that is a rather poorly-mannered road vehicle. Nobody wants that...
Well, in all fairness, most of the H1's that I see never go off-road either, so one could argue that it is just as much as a poser-mobile.
My friend has one though and he regularly beats the shit out of it. The paint is all fucked up now, but he has no plans on selling it.
I'm just waiting for the used H1 Alphas to come down in price. It would be a shame for them to discontinue them when they finally got the formula right on the Alpha---duramax, allison, and helical gears in the portals to get rid of the rock when you stop.
Spur- and bevel-cut gears are much more desireable than helicals when you're cannibalizing parts on the battlefield, which was very much an essential design objective with the H1. If a unit gets taken out by an IED or RPG, just pull good parts off the hulk to get others up and running. All 4 corners of the suspension are symmetrical, which accounts for their peculiar handling traits.
Its a real shame that the "real Hummer" is seen as the H2. Of course it outsells the H1, it is 1/3 the price. Of course the H2 and H3 get better gas mileage and have better driveability, they are a very toned down version of the real deal. Soccer moms all over now sport the H2's and H3s'. Yuck
I have a client that was so happy when he bought his bright yellow H2 last year. Knowing I was a "car guy", he thought I would be impressed by his Hummer as he called it only to get embarrased after I was reluctant to agree with him and referred to it as a H2-the womans version.
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"Walsh said Hummer would consider building a pickup truck, but would not -- as the Chrysler Group's Jeep brand recently started to do -- build car-based "crossover" vehicles."
It is truly a shame that Daimler has allowed the Jeep to be trivialized. I know KRAZY and SoCal love their hemi-powered 2WD boxes with 20" wheels, short sidewalls, air dams and running boards, but in my mind, they ain't Jeeps. If you can't bang curbs or rocks with impunity in 4Lo, it shouldn't be labeled "Jeep"
I thought H2's were the girls hummer too when they first came out. My buddy had an H1, but it was an impractical sonuvabitch and was always in the shop. He sold it for a 500 SL, but his job takes him out to the docks alot and he was beating the hell out of it so he bought and H2 SUT and kept the SL for the weekends. I immediately started fucking with him about the H2, until I rode in it. Then I understood. It is one very comfortable motherfucker and the SUT version has great versatility. It makes a really good daily driver. I ended up getting an H2 SUT of my own a few months back and I absolutely love it. It isn't an offroad vehicle in my opinion---so big and heavy and the IFS is weak. But it does what it is meant to do.
That being said the H1 is the only real hummer and everything else is just a fucking rebodied GM vehicle.
"Walsh said Hummer would consider building a pickup truck, but would not -- as the Chrysler Group's Jeep brand recently started to do -- build car-based "crossover" vehicles."
It is truly a shame that Daimler has allowed the Jeep to be trivialized. I know KRAZY and SoCal love their hemi-powered 2WD boxes with 20" wheels, short sidewalls, air dams and running boards, but in my mind, they ain't Jeeps. If you can't bang curbs or rocks with impunity in 4Lo, it shouldn't be labeled "Jeep"
"fucking our heritage in the ass" has been a theme at Chrysler for some time now.... where ya been?
the H2 is just a glorified GM Tahoe/Yukon H3 is a chevythe new canyon i think
I think you are pretty close. I thought the H2 was based off the GM full sized truck platform though, which I guess the Yukon/Tahoe is loosely based off anyways. I used to work at the GM Tahoe/Yukon plant in Wisconsin back when I worked for GM.
Whatever the case, even if the H1 is a bitch to drive on real roads, it is so cool that I would not give a shit. I would feel like one bad ass son-of-a-bitch if I owned one. Not that I don't already. I was going to buy a used H1 a few years ago as my daily driver. Probably not a good idea seeing as I drive 70 miles round trip a day through stop and go rush hour traffic, but I coulda run over all the other vehicles, including the H2.
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I've had both H1's and H2's for demos, and I wouldn't want to drive either one as a daily driver. They both get horrible fuel mileage! The H1 is bad to the bone, and it gets a lot of attention, but you might as well be driving an uncomfortable school bus around! The H2 is at least comfortable, but it's sluggish, and it's really a big piece of shit. I liked sporting them around when they were still the new hot thing, but everyone has them now. I'd like to have an H1 as a third or fourth vehicle, but I would have to leave it parked about 350 days of the year.