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Old April 24th, 2003, 02:21 PM   #1
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North Korea Admits It Has Nukes

WASHINGTON — North Korea has told the United States that it possesses nuclear weapons, Bush administration sources said Thursday, according to published reports.

Both the Associated Press and Reuters reported that Pyongyang made the admission during its talks in Beijing with the U.S. and China.

A U.S. official told the Associated Press that North Korea (search) may conduct a test of its weapons, although there are no indications a test is imminent. He acknowledged that preparations for an underground test could be concealed.

According to the official, a North Korean nuclear detonation would deplete by half their estimated stockpile of two weapons.

"They said what we always knew -- that they do have weapons," another source told Reuters. "That doesn't shock us. We've been saying that. Now they said it."

"They never used the word testing. ... We're still translating but it's being overplayed a bit," he added.

The talks in Beijing ended with State Department officials saying it was uncertain whether discussions on Pyongyang's nuclear program would continue, although they denied reports that the talks had broken down.

Before the start of the second day's meeting, North Korea accused the United States of leading the region toward war, an apparent attempt by the communist nation to increase pressure on negotiators, according to the U.S. officials.

Earlier, Secretary of State Colin Powell had told a gathering of experts from the Asia-Pacific region that the talks, involving the United States, North Korea and China, had concluded, leaving the impression there would not be a third day of discussions on Friday.

Powell expressed hope that South Korea and Japan would be able to participate "when and if" there is another round of talks.

He added: "North Korea should not leave the meetings having the slightest impression that they might force us to make a concession we would not otherwise make."

In Beijing, the chief U.S. negotiator, Assistant Secretary of State James Kelly, declined to answer questions upon returning to his hotel in the afternoon, saying only that the sides "had talks."

Kelly was to fly to Seoul on Friday to meet with South Korean officials.

North Korea continued to try to ratchet up the pressure and is believed to want economic aid in exchange for concessions.

Its leaders are outraged over U.S. moves to cut off oil shipments because of its suspected nuclear weapons program, and fears it is next on Washington's list for military action.

"The situation on the Korean Peninsula is so tense that a war may break out any moment due to the U.S. moves," the North's KCNA news agency.

It said relations with the United States had hit "rock bottom" because President Bush named North Korea as part of an "axis of evil," along with Iran and Iraq.

KCNA said the war in Iraq had shown the only way for a country to protect itself was to have a strong military deterrent. Officials from Seoul and Washington say the swift U.S.-led victory in Iraq prompted North Korea to agree to the nuclear talks.

The North's Korea People's Army vowed to "put all people under arms and turn the whole country into a fortress" and urged its soldiers to become "human bombs and fighters ready to blow up themselves" to protect leader Kim Jong Il (search).

"If the U.S. imperialists and their followers intrude into even an inch of the inviolable sky, land and sea of the (North) ... the (army) will deal merciless deadly blows at the aggressors," North Korean Defense Minister Kim Il Chol was quoted as saying by KCNA.

Still, North Korea said it was ready to settle the dispute over its suspected nuclear weapons programs and that the "master key" for successful talks was for the United States to drop its hostile policy toward Pyongyang.

Late Wednesday, Chinese Foreign Minister Li Zhaoxing and Secretary of State Colin Powell talked by phone and agreed that the Beijing talks were beneficial, China's official Xinhua News Agency reported.

The U.S. Embassy and Chinese Foreign Ministry said they had no details of Thursday's discussions. But ministry spokesman Liu Jianchao said the talks were "conducive to mutual understanding and finding ways to resolve the North Korean nuclear question peacefully."

North Korea and China fought against the United States in the 1950-53 Korean War, which ended without a peace treaty. North Korea and Washington have no formal relations and are still technically at war.

In a likely reference to North Korea's demand for a nonaggression treaty with Washington, KCNA said: "The U.S. should settle the talks from a sincere stand and strive to settle the essential issue."

Washington has refused to offer a formal treaty but says it would consider some sort of written assurance.

China, the North's ally and major aid donor, nevertheless says it doesn't want Pyongyang to acquire nuclear weapons and has appealed for a negotiated settlement to the crisis.

The talks are being led by Assistant Secretary of State James Kelly and Ri Gun, deputy director of American affairs for North Korea's Foreign Ministry. China's delegation is led by Fu Ying, director general of the Asian Affairs Department of its Foreign Ministry.

The United States hopes eventually to include Japan and South Korea in the talks. Kelly briefed South Korean and Japanese diplomats in Beijing following Wednesday's discussions, the U.S. Embassy said. He is scheduled to visit Seoul for meetings immediately after the Beijing talks.

Washington says the North revealed during a visit by Kelly to Pyongyang in October that it was trying to develop nuclear weapons in violation of a 1994 pledge. The North has disputed the U.S. claim.

The North likely wants aid for its economy, which has been crippled by the loss of Soviet subsidies and years of drought and mismanagement.

Since the latest nuclear tensions erupted, Pyongyang has become the first country to withdraw from the nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (search) and restarted a plutonium-producing reactor.
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Old April 24th, 2003, 02:28 PM   #2
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I would say with this new information...it give the USA the green light to nuke them back into the stone ages if they get out of line.
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Old April 24th, 2003, 02:30 PM   #3
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uh oh....
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Old April 24th, 2003, 02:32 PM   #4
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Re: North Korea Admits It Has Nukes

"The North likely wants aid for its economy, which has been crippled by the loss of Soviet subsidies and years of drought and mismanagement."

Fuck that. Fuck their economy. But chances are, a bunch of spineless motherfuckers will give in, and next thing you know we will be sending millions of TAX DOLLARS over there.

Fuck the whole NK scenario is pissing me off...
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Old April 24th, 2003, 02:32 PM   #5
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What do you expect from a country whose official news agency last week put out a press release telling the world about their formidable leader who according to the north koreans scored 11 hole in ones on his first ever game of golf...


They are uneducated hmm "something" that lives their lifes inside a lie that the people are happy.

You know what they did for their elevated leaders birth day? They allowed the people to have electricity for a full night. normally electricity is only on for 8 hours per day. Do i need to say more...?
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Old April 24th, 2003, 06:17 PM   #6
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According to the latest Dynamics Pole, over 54% of all Americans feel NK is the biggest threat to the U.S.
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Old April 24th, 2003, 06:41 PM   #7
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Guess that puts Gerald in the minority.... [img]/images/graemlins/laughing.gif[/img]
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so we wouldnt even have to declare war.....hmmmmmmmmm
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Old April 24th, 2003, 06:42 PM   #9
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I don't think so. They are a threat to South korea and Japan but hardly a more than a mosquito compared to the US with all it's might. Then again i didn't believe that Iraq was worth the attention (and money) that went into that conflict.
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I would say with this new information...it give the USA the green light to nuke them back into the stone ages if they get out of line.
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I dont think we would Nuke them. The MOAB might be the better choice.
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So the North Korean's are going to use a NUKE if we don't give them a gazzilion dollars....Uhm....NO!....Fuck em...They have no ballistic missles...They are not selling chem/bio weapons or training Islamic Militants...Let someone pay that is in reach of their missle capability...We cannot be blackmailed, and if they even suggest this...TAKE THEM OUT! And if anything is left, give it to South Korea, and bring all of our boys home....This ssssoooooo sounds like China, Japan, and Taiwan's problem...not ours...
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Old April 24th, 2003, 11:40 PM   #13
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So the North Korean's are going to use a NUKE if we don't give them a gazzilion dollars....Uhm....NO!....Fuck em...They have no ballistic missles...They are not selling chem/bio weapons or training Islamic Militants...Let someone pay that is in reach of their missle capability...We cannot be blackmailed, and if they even suggest this...TAKE THEM OUT! And if anything is left, give it to South Korea, and bring all of our boys home....This ssssoooooo sounds like China, Japan, and Taiwan's problem...not ours...
I thought they had the ability to launch & reach California? I could be wrong but I thought I heard that on the news.
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Old April 24th, 2003, 11:48 PM   #14
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I thought they had the ability to launch & reach California? I could be wrong but I thought I heard that on the news.
China, Japan, Taiwan, and California....Actually, fuck em, don't pay....I DARE NORTH KOREA TO NUKE CALIFORNIA! DOUBLE DARE! Email me for the coordinates of Nancy Pelosi's house!

King...They haven't even tested a NUKE yet...How do THEY even know they have nukes? And why would they NUKE us? They would be removed from the planet...period...cease to exist completely...
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I thought they had the ability to launch & reach California? I could be wrong but I thought I heard that on the news.
China, Japan, Taiwan, and California....Actually, fuck em, don't pay....I DARE NORTH KOREA TO NUKE CALIFORNIA! DOUBLE DARE! Email me for the coordinates of Nancy Pelosi's house!

King...They haven't even tested a NUKE yet...How do THEY even know they have nukes? And why would they NUKE us? They would be removed from the planet...period...cease to exist completely...
I agree. But I still say we should wipe em' out.
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I thought they had the ability to launch & reach California? I could be wrong but I thought I heard that on the news.
China, Japan, Taiwan, and California....Actually, fuck em, don't pay....I DARE NORTH KOREA TO NUKE CALIFORNIA! DOUBLE DARE! Email me for the coordinates of Nancy Pelosi's house!

King...They haven't even tested a NUKE yet...How do THEY even know they have nukes? And why would they NUKE us? They would be removed from the planet...period...cease to exist completely...
I agree. But I still say we should wipe em' out.
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Re: North Korea Admits It Has Nukes

It is time for the UN to do something why does everyone look to us, Lets see wht the UN says on this one. ok so we support 65% of the UN budget.

Iraq didn't comply with the orders of the UN for 12 years and we still got the short end of the stick.
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Old April 25th, 2003, 02:24 PM   #18
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Re: North Korea Admits It Has Nukes

Aren't North Korea still on the UN black list?

The problem seems to be China who keeps on support NK. And they are a part of the security council so they can veto anything and everything as they see fit.

It seems the US would win by leaning on China to remove their support of NK. Couldn't that WTO and Most Favoured Nation agreement between US and China be leveraged?
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Old April 25th, 2003, 02:30 PM   #19
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Re: North Korea Admits It Has Nukes

An article in today's Post suggests that having made such an accouncement might interfere with China's support for NK. Maybe they overplayed their hand on this move.
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Old April 25th, 2003, 02:36 PM   #20
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