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Old June 17th, 2005, 07:45 AM   #1
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some interesting reading for those with a web presence or developing a site - googles recent patent application reveals secrets to their algorithm - http://www.buzzle.com/editorials/6-10-2005-71368.asp
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Old June 17th, 2005, 08:17 AM   #2
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i believe this is a link to the patent application itself
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Old June 17th, 2005, 10:51 AM   #3
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Proves that some patents are real trash....

Let me restate that: I would say it as an obvious method for anybody with state of the art knowledge.


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Old June 17th, 2005, 01:07 PM   #4
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i could'nt make heads or tails out of the patent application itself - but the writeups i have read on it seem to make sense on future SEO and PR optimization
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Old June 18th, 2005, 06:04 PM   #5
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Spam Sucks! Fight back!
Good job Google.

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Old June 18th, 2005, 06:12 PM   #6
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Uhh, and the secret to Coke is listed on every can. That patent has been around for over a year and most of that stuff is part of their typical campaign of disinformation.

If you believe half of that is true, you should get into the biz. There's about eleventy billion dollars just waiting for you.
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Old June 18th, 2005, 06:16 PM   #7
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I hadn't thought of that.

I still thought those ideas seemed pretty good at dealing with the spam problem even if not true.
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Old June 18th, 2005, 06:34 PM   #8
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In that light, this is pretty much Patent Spam. It's a classic technique used by many IP firms to bring all whiteboarded thoughts to the table to preclude the competition...or at least slow their ability...to promote innovation.

Before you get too deep in that patent, look at some of what it incorporates. Bookmarks? First rule of search engine, AI, and IR designs is "if Stevie Wonder can manipulate it like he was Stephen Hawking, it's out". In some industries, I'd be willing to pay folks $50 a bookmark so my clients could run right up to the top of Google.

SPAM is not Google's biggest problem right now. It's the fact that PageRank no longer works and that is what the whole thing was predicated upon. Or at least sold to investors. Not more than two weeks ago, Paypal and Amazon were unable to be found in searches for "Paypal" and "Amazon" because of one of Google's stupid new filters.

Yahoo is actually leading in terms of search quality these days but Google has all the viral marketing. It's a damn shame such a worthless product has the marketshare but, when you start looking at Google as cynically as somebody like me who works with them pretty heavily every day, you realize that Google is not a search engine company at all.
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Old June 18th, 2005, 06:51 PM   #9
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i was hoping you would weigh in on this topic Smackie - i was interested in what a professional could offer on google's algo - i am particularly concerned about the apparent hit google will now be levying to domains registered for only a year - my host offers the domain as part of the package on a yearly basis and i was wondering if i should change this - also, i do not have a clue how google would determine if a bookmark was used - no referrer??
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Favicon. Google Toolbar. Google Cookie. They pretty much know 50% about what you had for breakfast.

I wouldn't worry too much about the domain renewal scoring right now. The fact that Google is an ICANN Registrar solely for the purposes of "researching how people register domains (read: so we can decipher networks of sites)" is more worrisome.
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thank you - that explains alot -
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