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Old March 10th, 2005, 11:04 AM   #1
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Sun: Illegal Wins $4 Million Suit

A Bronx, N.Y., day laborer living and working illegally in the United States has been awarded a $4 million settlement for injuries suffered on the job, the largest ever award of its kind, the New York Sun reported Tuesday in a Page One story.

The undocumented Mexican native, who did not want his identity known out of fear that news of the settlement would put his family at risk of kidnapping in Mexico, fell 30 feet from a scaffolding at a construction site Oct. 18, 2001, the paper said.

As a result, the 33-year-old migrant suffered numerous injuries, including a collapsed lung, loss of one eye, loss of his sense of smell, and brain damage, the paper reported.

The Mexican’s trial attorneys were pleased with the result – the largest award ever won by an illegal immigrant in the U.S.

"The lesson today for all the undocumented immigrants of New York is they have the same rights to access the courts in New York City as any American citizen," Brian O'Dwyer of O'Dwyer and Bernstein LLP told reporters Monday.
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Old March 10th, 2005, 11:10 AM   #2
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What a fucking joke your country is becoming!

Damn glad I'm living in Canada
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Old March 10th, 2005, 12:18 PM   #3
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If this keeps up, Canada just might get crowded.
Although if you think about it, if it didn't effect the tax payers, and his employer had to pay out of pocket, it stands to reason that the employer should not have been so cheap as to employ a moron that happens to be illegal.
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Old March 10th, 2005, 12:23 PM   #4
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Hey, have taxes taken out of that, plus lawyers fees
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Old March 10th, 2005, 12:48 PM   #5
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Although if you think about it, if it didn't effect the tax payers
Of course it affects taxpayers. The employer's insurance company pays the amount, thus increases premiums on construction companies, which in turn results in higher bids being placed for construction jobs because of the higher costs of insurance for construction companies, and therefore the taxpayers are paying more for construction jobs to be completed. It ALWAYS affects the taxpayers.
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Old March 10th, 2005, 12:51 PM   #6
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it stands to reason that the employer should not have been so cheap as to employ a moron that happens to be illegal.
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Of course it affects taxpayers. The employer's insurance company pays the amount, thus increases premiums on construction companies, which in turn results in higher bids being placed for construction jobs because of the higher costs of insurance for construction companies, and therefore the taxpayers are paying more for construction jobs to be completed. It ALWAYS affects the taxpayers.
I doubt the insurance policy cover's an illegal, in fact I'd bet on it. Meaning the employer files bankruptcy and the messican never sees a cent.

We lose because of all the free healthcare he got.
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Old March 10th, 2005, 01:02 PM   #8
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I doubt the insurance policy cover's an illegal, in fact I'd bet on it. Meaning the employer files bankruptcy and the messican never sees a cent.

We lose because of all the free healthcare he got.
Even if it doesn't cover it, and the employer goes bankrupt, the taxpayers still pay, because that business isn't doing the work, and there's costs associated with that, like going through a new bidding process for another company to do the work, etc.

And further, as you pointed out, the taxpayers likely pay for the healthcare provided too.
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Even if it doesn't cover it, and the employer goes bankrupt, the taxpayers still pay, because that business isn't doing the work, and there's costs associated with that, like going through a new bidding process for another company to do the work, etc.

And further, as you pointed out, the taxpayers likely pay for the healthcare provided too.
Oh I'm not saying the taxpayer doesn't get screwed. We pay for the healthcare, the change in construction contractor, the lost jobs of the construction contractor, the judge/jury/court costs to hear the case, etc. etc.

The libs who want to give all these illegals drivers licenses and treat them like long lost brothers should have to pay for it.
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Old March 10th, 2005, 01:22 PM   #10
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Of course it affects taxpayers. The employer's insurance company pays the amount, thus increases premiums on construction companies, which in turn results in higher bids being placed for construction jobs because of the higher costs of insurance for construction companies, and therefore the taxpayers are paying more for construction jobs to be completed. It ALWAYS affects the taxpayers.
I was speaking hypothetically, I know the taxpayers will wind up paying, but in the perfect world we live in, this is how it should be. That a better splanation?
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Old March 10th, 2005, 02:20 PM   #11
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So if a business hires illegal aliens, they should be able to subject them to whatever dangerous conditions they want without fear of repercussion? I am not sure we can have 2 different sets of safety standards based on who you are.

Part of the employment process is that you check worker eligibility.... they knew what they were doing - and it's a distinct possiblity that some businesses hire the illegals to skirt OTHER laws, as well, in hopes that the illegal workers will be too scared to report anything.

I am not a fan of illegal immigration, but stop the source and weed these folks out. As long as it's possible to hire these folks and not get caught and pay them less than their "legal" counterparts, they will continue to sneak into this country. Supply and demand, ya know. If the word got out that you couldn't work in the US - period - no discussion - we'd have less of a problem.
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Perhaps the solution would be for the government to confiscate the law suit funds and apply it to strengthing the border
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Perhaps the solution would be for the government to confiscate the law suit funds and apply it to strengthing the border

HOLY SHIT!!!!! that logic came outta yer mouth????
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I'm trying to figure out how strengthening the border will help Makara.
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Perhaps he's thinking outside the box, thinking that strengthening the borders would also help to keep people in, not just out?
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So if a business hires illegal aliens, they should be able to subject them to whatever dangerous conditions they want without fear of repercussion?


Yes...The messicans perform work that your average American will not, and they are NOT "illegal aliens", they are simply "undocumented workers". Bottom line, if you need a window cleaned on the 64th story, and the only way to get there is by hanging someone with a squeegie from a rope, there is an "undocumented worker" who will do it, for a bag of Doritos and some bean dip.

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Of course it affects taxpayers. The employer's insurance company pays the amount, thus increases premiums on construction companies, which in turn results in higher bids being placed for construction jobs because of the higher costs of insurance for construction companies, and therefore the taxpayers are paying more for construction jobs to be completed. It ALWAYS affects the taxpayers.
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