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Old February 14th, 2005, 10:02 AM   #1
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A soldier's letter to his commander-in-chief:


November 20, 2004

To: George W. Bush

From: SGT Kevin M. Benderman


When are you going to tell the truth to the people of the United States?

Why don't you tell them why you want to be in Iraq so bad?

I was there for six months and I did not see the first weapon of mass destruction. I did receive orders from the company commander to shoot children if they threw small rocks at us and that was when I figured out that the entire thing was way over the line.

Over 1200 soldiers have died in Iraq so that you can have a couple billion more dollars, that should make you feel very good about yourself.

The soldiers that have died for this sham that you have put over on the American people are so much more deserving than that. You are not worth the dust off of their boots.

If you truly had respect for the military and the people that serve then you would not continue to kill them in your war.

I joined the Army to protect my country and not to be a mercenary for a political despot.

If you wish to put me in prison because of my views then you should make room for about 75% of the military.

And while you are at make some room for yourself and about half of your administration. You are responsible for what happened at Abu Gharaib and you are shirking your responsibility.

The commander in chief is not above the UCMJ, as you would like to believe.

I want to fulfill my contract that says I joined the Army to protect my country against all enemies foreign and domestic, and as far as I am concerned you are a domestic enemy of the United States.

You care nothing for this country; you just care about the profits that are to be made from the oil in Iraq. That much is evident to me from the way the contracts were passed out to Halliburton and KBR. It must be nice to have the deck stacked in your favor by the president of the USA.

Since your are raising the debt ceiling of America so that we can pay the bills that you have run up, why don't you forgive the debts of every one in the armed forces since they are the ones that are making it possible for you to make billions from the oil from Iraq.


Sincerely,
SGT Kevin M. Benderman
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A forged letter written under the insidious influence of your laffing gas gone bad oh twisted and vile delusional dental cavity killah ya!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old February 14th, 2005, 10:23 AM   #3
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Mike...You should be ashamed of yourself...Posting this obvious crap...


Good Lord you are a bitter, bitter fuckin loser.....Please kill yourself immeditately.
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Old February 14th, 2005, 10:37 AM   #4
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Re: When are you going to tell the truth...

If anyone actually believes this letter is bogus, by all means to do a search on "SGT Kevin M. Benderman".

And, SB, trust me, life is very good and I ain't bitter. Feel free to die of a massive coronary.
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Old February 14th, 2005, 10:52 AM   #5
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Mikie lives in na na land... He is happy there... He had no friends - but he is happy there - talking to himself - convincing himself that the US is the great Satin...

A complete and utter loser... Unfortunately he knows it as well...

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Old February 14th, 2005, 10:56 AM   #6
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Re: When are you going to tell the truth...

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...the US is the great Satin...
Is that like "Nights in White Satin"?
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probably another reservist who joined for the college money then got mad when the goverment made him work for it.
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Hogwash. Obviously forged, or a misguided youth (as is anyone else that believes this propaganda).
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Old February 14th, 2005, 04:22 PM   #9
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That sounds like the kind of soldier that would shoot himself in the foot to get out of duty. Too bad the tree hugging liberals would bitch, but we need another George Patton to slap some of these whiners.
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Old February 14th, 2005, 04:43 PM   #10
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Re: When are you going to tell the truth...

Soldier explains refusal to return to Iraq
Decision came from long deliberation
Monday, January 17, 2005 Posted: 7:58 AM EST (1258 GMT)


Sgt. Kevin Benderman


HINESVILLE, Georgia (AP) -- A young girl clutching her arm blackened by burns, dogs feeding off bodies in mass graves -- the images still haunt Sgt. Kevin Benderman 15 months after he came home from Iraq.

Witnessing the brutal reality of war, Benderman stunned his commanders when he sought a discharge as a conscientious objector after 10 years in the Army.

In an interview with The Associated Press, the sergeant said he never grasped the misery that war inflicts on civilians as well as combatants until he saw it all firsthand.

"Some people may be born a conscientious objector, but sometimes people realize through certain events in their lives that the path they're on is the wrong one," Benderman said. "The idea was: Do I really want to stay in an organization where the sole purpose is to kill?"

Benderman's decision -- choosing conscience over his commitment to fellow troops -- has meant bearing the insults.

An officer called him a coward. His battalion chaplain shamed him in an e-mail from Kuwait. That's because Benderman, whose unit just deployed for a second combat tour in Iraq, refused to return to war.

Benderman, 40, filed notice in December, and his timing could hardly have been worse for the Army. The Fort Stewart-based 3rd Infantry Division began deploying its 19,000 soldiers this month.

Benderman's unit, the 3rd Forward Support Battalion, was leaving for Kuwait on January 5. When commanders ordered him to deploy while they processed his objector application, he refused to show up for his flight.

He said he has his reasons, reflecting on time in Iraq.

Benderman told of bombed out homes and displaced Iraqis living in mud huts and drinking from mud puddles; mass graves in Khanaqin near the Iranian border where dogs fed off bodies of men, women and children.

He recalled his convoy passing a girl, no older than 10, on the roadside clutching a badly injured arm. Benderman said his executive officer refused to help because troops had limited medical supplies.

"Her arm was burned, third-degree burns, just black. And she was standing there with her mother begging for help," Benderman said. "That was an eye opener to seeing how insane it really is."

Now Benderman, a mechanic who has been reassigned to a non-deploying rear detachment unit, could face a court-martial. Fort Stewart officials have not decided whether to charge him.

Separately, he must convince commanders he is morally opposed to war in all forms, as Army regulations define conscientious objection, despite his lengthy military service and previous combat tour.

"If he went to Iraq and then comes back and says, `I'm now opposed to war,' the issue is are you opposed to all wars or just this one you don't want to go back to?" said Mark Stevens, a military defense lawyer and retired Marine Corps judge advocate. "He wasn't opposed to war two years ago, why is he opposed to it now?"

Benderman said the officer who took his objector notice dismissed him as a coward. His unit's chaplain offered little encouragement.

"You should have had the moral fortitude to deploy with us and see me here in Kuwait to begin your CO application," Army Chaplain Matt Temple said in a recent e-mail to Benderman. "You should be ashamed of the way you have conducted yourself. I certainly am ashamed of you."

Benderman's wife, Monica, said her husband hinted that he had doubts about taking part in the war in a letter he sent home that referenced scholars' belief that Iraq was home to the biblical Garden of Eden.

"He said, `Here I am in the Garden of Eden, and what am I doing here with a gun?"' she said.

Raised a Southern Baptist in Tennessee, Benderman keeps an open Bible on his living room table but said he's "more spiritual than religious." After going to Iraq, he picked up the Quran and was struck by the similarities between Islam and Christianity.

He returned in September 2003 after serving eight months in Iraq with the 4th Infantry Division from Fort Hood, Texas. As a mechanic who fixes Bradley armored vehicles, he said he never fired a weapon in combat.

Still, Benderman began questioning whether he could return to a war zone when he transferred to Fort Stewart in October 2003. He said he never mentioned his doubts to soldiers in his new unit, but trained with them for a year as they prepared for a second tour. By December, he had even packed his clothes and equipment for shipping overseas.

Benderman acknowledged that waiting more than a year, until right before deployment, may seem "out of the blue." But he insisted his decision came from long deliberation, not desperation.

"People say, `You're abandoning these soldiers that depend on you,' and so that weighs on you," he said. "But what's worse? Going over there and participating in war, or maybe doing something that can help people figure out that you don't have to go to war?"
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Old February 14th, 2005, 04:57 PM   #11
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[quote=Mike From Fl]A soldier's letter to his commander-in-chief:
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If you wish to put me in prison because of my views then you should make room for about 75% of the military.

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Mikie,

This letter is obviously written by someone as delussional as yourself.

When this idiot quotes 75% of the Army feels the way he does he must be dislexic. Stars and stripes and other sources have over 75% of our military voting for Bush!

Time to put down the crack-pipe.

Oh, I guess quoting bad information makes you a liar by your own standards.

Silly liberals! I wish being correct were more challenging... they make it too easy.

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Old February 14th, 2005, 05:06 PM   #12
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Silly liberals! I wish being correct were more challenging... they make it too easy.

WTF does that mean?
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Old February 14th, 2005, 05:49 PM   #13
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Very typical liberal, probabley got into the military, as said before, so he could get an education and now that push comes to shove, he has second thoughts. He spent one tour over there and never fired a weapon? Must not have been in a very bad area. Saw all of that horror he discussed and now doesn't want to go back and try to do something about it. Pretty bad in my book.

The militaries sole purpose is to kill? No but that is a big part, as people are usually trying to kill us in these situations. Just what does this guy think Saddam was doing, giving birthday parties and wedding showers? As bad as it is now, I am willing to say it was worse under Saddam's rule.

If he is such a good Christian, why did he enlist in the first place. When the recruiter has you sign on the dotted line, there is no question of the possibility of having to fight and or kill for your country.

75% of the military would agree with him, I don't think so, as stated, most voted for Bush.

Does this idiot think that the military is just there to provide him an income? Did he not go to school and learn about the past history of war? The man is 40ish right, he lived through the Vietnam war, wtf.

His wife said he was telling her in her letters of his misgivings, haven't the soldiers in all wars written the same things? But the difference is that they "soldiered on". See a theme here, nobody thinks this is a great field trip and wishes they could get right back into it, but they have a job to do and they do it.

He shouldn't get the luxury of a court martial.
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If mikie has his way - each and every military soldier will come equipped with an attorney - just to make sure that they shoot at the right time - and consider every last option before having to kill...

Mikie supports the military - only if they don't have to shoot their guns...
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Re: When are you going to tell the truth...

Glen, as usual, you are talking out your ass again and as usual you've got nothing useful to say. All I did was reproduce the guy's letter which I thought was interesting. Afterward, I defended it's authenticity. Then I posted a follow-up story on the same soldier. Nowhere in this thread did I make any comment about what I originally posted here, so don't pretend to have any idea what my opinion is on anything. You'll know my opinion when I tell it to you.

Mikie thinks Glen is a close-minded motherfucker who would rather tell Mikie what Mikie thinks than to actually hear what Mikie thinks.
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WTF does that mean?
Do you really need it spelled out again?

The article you posted is crap, written by a snivelling incompetent. If you want to post it, then ride it all the way in.

By reproducing such garbage you only prove two things:

1) That this guy is a malingerer.
2) That you support such behavior.

Good work.

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Mikie thinks Glen is a close-minded motherfucker who would rather tell Mikie what Mikie thinks than to actually hear what Mikie thinks.

Why are you talking as if you are the third person?

Did you skip your prescription today?
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By reproducing such garbage you only prove two things:

1) That this guy is a malingerer.
2) That you support such behavior.
According to your own argument, what does it imply about you when you reproduce (quote) my "garbage".
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According to your own argument, what does it imply about you when you reproduce (quote) my "garbage".
Technically Mike... It's not your garbage. Just keeping it real beeeeeyotch!!!!!!!!!!!!

BTW... Estelle Getty called and said she's still waiting to set up the next appointment with you. She so enjoyed her last "treatment" ...You know... The one where you gas her, and she wakes up not quite remembering what happened, and wondering where the nurses have gone... but still reeling from a shock that rakes from her false toothies all the way to her "used to maybe but prolly no fucking way lady" juicy lucy... The stench of your sweat racked body, glistening off of your semi-bald broad fore-sloped pate. The grinning grin your grinning burning into her tired and old ne'er far nor near sighted laser toasted retina, that's seen way too much in her 80 odd years... Not the least of which is YOU!!!
But the gas has it's effect, she is subdued and you have your way.

Even tho your drill may be dull... Your political view askew... And your taste in women worse than the lead queer eye for a straight guy girl, biv-whacked in the middle of the Adult Entertainment Awards, hosted by our very own SoCalRebel, Lost in Las Vegas cower-ing in the corner whist Hunter S. Thompson torments him/her with 1000 milligrams of LSD and two incredibly hot Playboy Models swankily swinging from either arm..........

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