Following their victory in the U.N.'s highest court, the Palestinians will ask the General Assembly next week to demand that Israel destroy the barrier it is building to seal off the West Bank. After Friday's ruling by the International Court of Justice in The Hague, Netherlands, that the barrier violates international law, the Palestinians and their Arab supporters said they will seek a resolution enforcing the decision.
1. Why do the Palestinians, and especially other Arab countries give a shit if Israel puts up a wall?
2. What business is it of the United Nations?
3. How does the barrier violate international law?
4. Why is the United Nations sssooooo anti-semitic? (I understand why the Arab members are, but I don't get why the other countries are)
5. The United Nations would embezzle monies from a girl scout bake sale, if they could, and even if they were sure they were going to get caught. How much longer can America put up with these assholes?
Following their victory in the U.N.'s highest court, the Palestinians will ask the General Assembly next week to demand that Israel destroy the barrier it is building to seal off the West Bank. After Friday's ruling by the International Court of Justice in The Hague, Netherlands, that the barrier violates international law, the Palestinians and their Arab supporters said they will seek a resolution enforcing the decision.
1. Why do the Palestinians, and especially other Arab countries give a shit if Israel puts up a wall?
2. What business is it of the United Nations?
3. How does the barrier violate international law?
4. Why is the United Nations sssooooo anti-semitic? (I understand why the Arab members are, but I don't get why the other countries are)
5. The United Nations would embezzle monies from a girl scout bake sale, if they could, and even if they were sure they were going to get caught. How much longer can America put up with these assholes?
This is the Stupidest Fucking thing I have heard this year. Gee, I wonder if, they ever heard of the Great Wall of China, WTF. The U.N. has YET to ever make any sense.
Following their victory in the U.N.'s highest court, the Palestinians will ask the General Assembly next week to demand that Israel destroy the barrier it is building to seal off the West Bank. After Friday's ruling by the International Court of Justice in The Hague, Netherlands, that the barrier violates international law, the Palestinians and their Arab supporters said they will seek a resolution enforcing the decision.
1. Why do the Palestinians, and especially other Arab countries give a shit if Israel puts up a wall?
2. What business is it of the United Nations?
3. How does the barrier violate international law?
4. Why is the United Nations sssooooo anti-semitic? (I understand why the Arab members are, but I don't get why the other countries are)
5. The United Nations would embezzle monies from a girl scout bake sale, if they could, and even if they were sure they were going to get caught. How much longer can America put up with these assholes?
If I agree with ALL of that, does it mean I am a raving conservative? [img]/images/graemlins/laughing.gif[/img]
Luckily, the UN Security Council MUST pass any UN resolution that is binding on it's members. If it ever came up, the US would veto it. So, it ain't gonna happen. The wall is the perfect answer!
If you read the pertinent parts of the ruling
the main problem the UN has is that the wall is being built by Israel
on Palestinian land.
I think the phrase used was "it amounts to de facto annexation of Palestinian territory". I wouldn't be happy if Mexico built a wall ten miles inside the US to keep itself seperate. If the wall was built on Israeli land the UN would really have no authority on the issue.
So, if Israel wants a wall they have the right to build a wall
but on their land.
The ruling is only a recommendation and nonbinding. The Chinese of all people or rather the Chinese Government STRONGLY dislikes Israel because Israel like Albania is a Strategically located American Satellite where the local people are proud to host our soldiers in bad times and Good w/out concern. The same can't be said of our soldiers in any other country in the ENTIRE middle East! My land, their land.. pardon me HEY STOP SHOOTING AT US ALREADY!!... WRT to the UN's thought..FUCK'EM SCUMBAGS and their nonbinding Judgement.
With all due respect, there is no such thing as Palestinian Land...yet (Arafat turned down the last chance for that to come to fruition)...for Israel to "annex". It's their fucking land.
Bust out the globe and point to Palestine for me. It ain't there. What you have is acquiesced Section 8 equivalent zones loaded with rock chuckers and bomb factories. Oh, and "peaceful Muslims".
1. Why do the Palestinians, and especially other Arab countries give a shit if Israel puts up a wall?
2. What business is it of the United Nations?
3. How does the barrier violate international law?
4. Why is the United Nations sssooooo anti-semitic? (I understand why the Arab members are, but I don't get why the other countries are)
5. The United Nations would embezzle monies from a girl scout bake sale, if they could, and even if they were sure they were going to get caught. How much longer can America put up with these assholes?
1) Because Israel did it partially on Palestinian land (the occupied part of the west bank).
2) The US and the allied countries set up the international court under UN charter in 1945 as a objective court to resolve disputes between nations. The hope was that disputes could be resolved peacefully so that war could be avoided. Israel if any nations should respect the UN since Israel as a nation was created based on a UN resolution in 1948 which partitioned Palestine into a Jewish and an Arab state.
3) Palestinians argued at the international court that the barrier was built inside Palestinian territor and Israel had no business building a barrier on property they did not control. The court is setup to objectively resolve disputes like that and under it's charter (which America was one of the key nations to create) they ruled on the case.
4) Both the Arabs and the Jewish people in Palestine/Isreael consideres themselves victims. I think that both the arabs and the jews in palestine has created many polarizing moments which then has forced many nations to take side. The UN has attempted to provide broad guidelines, but from time to time either side has agreed or disagreed with the guidelines which essentially has rendered UN powerless. Since both sides are in violation of the guidelines and the resolutions passed over the past 40 years its hard to argue that any one side is right or wrong.
5) UN is pretty inefficient as an organization but i don't think they are thieves. The question remains to be answered is that if UN is still relevant in the 21st century. US is (imho) skillfully woving NATO into becoming a stronger organization for global stability combined with a stronger more unified europe under the EU charter which may render large UN functions fairly defunct. It still remains to be seen which way the world will go.
With all due respect, there is no such thing as Palestinian Land...yet (Arafat turned down the last chance for that to come to fruition)...for Israel to "annex". It's their fucking land.
I do got to admit that the Palestinians has screwed up the past 30 years of negotiation with the Israelis. From resolution 242 in 1967 (the palestinians did not want to acknowledge either pre- nor post-war borders) since they were set on destroying the state of Israel itself. 20 years of failures to do that made them go back and say "OK, lets talk about resolution 242 from 1967 -we like that one now". Yeah right, with 3 million people to be resettled i can see how Israel had no interest in changing the borders as they suggested in 1967.
And i still don't get it why the security force of Isreal doesn't get rid of Arafat. He is a bad man.
Instead of arguing "Palestine" why not just have Israel build the fence
on land that everyone including the UN recognizes to be Israel?
And I guess you were happy when Saddam tried to "annex" Kuwait?
There is a reason it is called the "occupied territory".
You may not have to treat situations equivalently
but when a court looks at things they have to decide what is fair.
Niiiiice, Vanishing Train of Thought. Israel is not "annexing" shit. Those walls are for all intents and purposes the same perimeters enforced prior to its erection. What land has been "annexed" is a gross exaggeration of the term. If the Napaho Tribe starts launching attacks into Scottsdale and we need to build a wall, we're going to push in a few hundreds into their land, not ours, to erect a defensible position.
Nobody lost any farmland. Nobody's house or place of business was D9'd to put this wall up. But Israel wasn't stupid enough to erect a wall in place of the current indefensible perimeter it already had Swiss-cheesed by trafficers and terrorists. You'd defend your backyard the same way.
And, in the end, it's really all Israel's land in the first place. If they wanted to be land grabbing Jews, Egypt wouldn't have got their chunk of desert back and Syria would be a little smaller. They're just trying to defend themselves, jackass, and if you'd quit trying to prop up the anti-Zionist crap just for the sake of propping it up, you'd see how silly your contention really is.
Yeah, you can always resort to name calling. Haha.
Fact is and continues to be that you can build things on your own land legally.
Phrases like "intents and purposes" and "gross exageration" basically show that it is degree and not absolute that you are arguing.
And alot of Palestinians are losing farmland to the wall.
And I'd not defend my backyard by building a fence in your yard; the judge would just laugh at me.
And it is all Israel's land in your eyes and that is your opinion
but not really something that is legally recognized.
Building things on other folks land just ain't Kosher.
I have never run into someone with less of a clue about the Middle East than yourself. Feel free...and this is just a suggestion...to Google your way into an understanding of how Palestinian land within the sovereign State of Israel has been allocated and who still maintains the right to that land. One clue...it ain't Palestinians.
It's all political capital and someone who somehow made through med school might want to mix in some of that brainpower into something other than whatever the anesthesiologists left behind.
So, using the analogy you fucked up the first time...
I own 100 acres of the Republic of Smackie. You are a political intifidah pain in my ass and keep attacking the Smackie Lodge trying to drive me into the Sea of Smackie. I acquiesce....in the name of peace...to giving you 10 acres of the Republic of Smackie to live peacably on land you have no native rights to. A couple months later, you decide peaceably just ain't working out and you start lobbing mortar rounds and wiring up your kids like IED's and sending them to Smackie Schools. I decide that I need to defend myself from your incursions and I erect a wall. I erect that wall on my land...which you are living on by peace accord and political benevolence...and you get your feelings hurt. IT'S STILL MY FUCKING LAND THAT YOU GOT FOR NO OTHER REASON THAN BEING A POLITICAL PAWN OF A TERRORIST!!!
C'mon, doc. Get your learn on. Either that or get more cowbell.
You are dead fucking wrong. It's just that simple. Go to sleep and lay off the hippie lettuce. If Israel wanted more land there'd be synagogues in Riyadh and Sharm El Sheikh. Lebanon would be a Seinfeld Tour Stop. And Tehran would have more Cadillac dealerships. They aren't trying to fuck the stupid rock chuckers out of a new perimeter! Put the crack pipe down!
Basically what you are saying is that the court should say
that it is ok for Israel to build these walls outside of their borders.
I'm not sure that any court would have any kind of legal precedent
to make such a decision.
Remember courts deal with laws and not emotions.
And if all borders are defined by arms then what the heck are these folks doing in court?
I think most of us are realizing that in our modern world
the pure use of force is not as certain as it once was.
I guess Israel could try and wipe out all the Palestinians
but on a realistic level we all know that wouldn't fly
and with other countries in the region developing nuclear weapon capabilities
I believe Israel realizes that political solutions are important.
I'd guess Israel will in the future build these walls but on their own territory. That would be very hard to argue with. All nations deserve the right to security but it is good PR to do it in a legal manner.
