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Old June 15th, 2004, 06:14 PM   #1
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Iran massing troops on Iraq border

Beirut, Lebanon, Jun. 15 (UPI) -- Iran reportedly is readying troops to move into Iraq if U.S. troops pull out, leaving a security vacuum.

The Saudi daily Al-Sharq al-Awsat, monitored in Beirut, reports Iran has massed four battalions at the border.

Al-Sharq al-Awsat quoted "reliable Iraqi sources" as saying, "Iran moved part of its regular military forces towards the Iraqi border in the southern sector at a time its military intelligence agents were operating inside Iraqi territory."
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Old June 15th, 2004, 06:40 PM   #2
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Re: What Do You Make of This??

Shit just got more complicated.
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Old June 15th, 2004, 10:19 PM   #3
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Shit just got more complicated.
Nothing a couple of nukes dropped on the Iranians positions won't solve.
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Old June 15th, 2004, 10:40 PM   #4
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Good. Bring it Iran. We'll march through Tehran just like we did Bagdad.
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Old June 15th, 2004, 11:00 PM   #5
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It's called suicide.
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Sweet...Bunch em all up...Less wasted munitions that way
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Nothing bombing wouldnt take care of.
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Old June 16th, 2004, 02:49 AM   #8
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Old June 16th, 2004, 03:33 AM   #9
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Gentlemen:

In the words or George C Scott as Patton

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Old June 16th, 2004, 06:17 AM   #10
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Re: What Do You Make of This??

That's all well and good, but realistically tackling Iran is (will?) be a lot more complicated than Iraq ever was.

"Realistically" being the key word.
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Old June 16th, 2004, 06:34 AM   #11
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Re: What Do You Make of This??

Dunno Jon. We won't be interested in liberating Iran, just defending Iraq. But if you're referring to two fronts - Iran and Iraq Insurgence then yes, it would be more difficult.
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Old June 16th, 2004, 07:11 AM   #12
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Re: What Do You Make of This??

I think if we tried to do to Iran what we've done to Iraq, the world would not stand for it. It would be shitStorm time...
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Old June 16th, 2004, 07:16 AM   #13
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Re: What Do You Make of This??

What I meant was that Iran is far more militarily troublesome than Iraq was. They went through a huge buildup after the 89 war with Iraq, and they've been especially interested in non-conventional weapons. I've read that they annually produce more chemical weapons than anyone else in the world. They've also been caught red-handed doing things like funding the North Korean efforts to produce long-range missiles, and it's well known that Russia and China sell them military technology on a regular basis. Militarily their naval capabilities are thought to be fairly formidable in strictly regional terms.

I'm not saying we can't beat them. Without a doubt, we could slaughter them.

I'm saying Iraq wasn't shit compared to the trouble Iran will cause, and our hand in the Saddam beat-down basically compels us to provide some protection for Iraq until Iraq can protect itself again, which I can't foresee happening for something on the order of a decade or so.

All of that is true without even considering the question of treating Iraqi insurgency as a separate front, and you're right, it will continue to be that for a long time. We already know the majority of the disturbances in Iraq are not Iraqis, they're foreign Islamic extremists hell-bent on ensuring that we fail to establish a democratic government in Iraq.

A weak neighbor is about the only way Iran could make an offensive move in their present condition. They're strong compared to everybody but Israel, but not really strong enough to engage in any protracted offensive actions against full-strength opposition. They may therefore view this as a major, once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to grab some territory. In fact, given the way they think, they'd be stupid to view it any other way.
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Old June 16th, 2004, 08:59 PM   #14
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Iran could take israel...what Israel did with those nukes as they get overrun is another issue.

The big problem with Iran is that they DO have american weapons, F-4s, F-14s, F-16s, F-18s are fighters that they do have, and they arent export models.

Although I personally am not sure on their operational status because of the Iran Iraq war, after America pussed out and didn't assist their Ally the Shah of Iran, they let massive stockpiles of top of the line weapons fall into some rpg toting islamic fucks.

They DO have Mig 29s which can fly circles around our F-16s although their pilots suck, and I think once we invade their whole military will break apart, but we need to wipeout their entire army, kill every last one of their soldiers otherwise they will do what they are doing in Iraq.

America allowing the Iranian Revolution to happen in the first place was a gross error on our part and Carter is a dipfuck for allowing it to happen and not supporting his allies.

Iran is a country needed to be dealt with...in a utterly brutal and merciless fashion...after that we should reinstall a new shah goverment, which of course will be a major customer for AMERICAN military amraments, and will open up a new source of cheap oil for America...therefore win win for everyone.

and BTW, nukes aren't the answer, GAS is.

Expect a big fight, those islamist fucks , especially their mullahs etc will not surrender so easily, so they will be needed to be assasinated at the outset of the war.
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Old June 17th, 2004, 03:04 AM   #15
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Re: What Do You Make of This??

F14s where exported,but are very obsolete ( unless they also got the latest upgrades to radar / computer / targeting systems ) compared the the FA 18 hornet / superhornets, F4s arnt shit. i messed around with them in Aschool, F16s are decent, and ARE exported. i would guess migs before american fighters tho... think son. think.
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Old June 17th, 2004, 03:17 AM   #16
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Re: What Do You Make of This??

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Uh, maybe you been out of desert too long, Number Twenty, but none of us even believe that shit. I have nice bunker under my house and take Hebrew lessons at community college for day when Ayatollah get too cute and "subpar" Israeli F-16's do a little reconstruction on Tehran.
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Old June 17th, 2004, 03:21 AM   #17
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Re: What Do You Make of This??

Avi, in between making up an internet persona that requires you to stretch the truth far, far beyond repair, I am sure with the brilliant grasp you have on world affairs you have never heard the phrase "He is such a bright young man with great potential"

The phrases more apt to grace Avi's ears would be resounding and firm "NO's mostly from women. Other than that I imagine the line I said no onions on that burger" rattle around in that mushy, ignorant, deluded, shit sack of a head of yours.
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Old June 17th, 2004, 04:54 AM   #18
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Fuck off. It's not my 2nd persona and only a ignorant, fuckstick like you would think of such...your just a stereotypical, arrogant, pompus jewish shitstain getting wiped off this "ragheads" ass...

Its like your like begging to be ethnically cleansed or something....go away and leave me alone.


Iran could take out Isreal becasue Israel would be outnumbered, and no amount of military hardware could save them from the "Mass amounts of chemical weapons" being produced by Iran....and for some reason other than our US finnanced weapons being sent over there and the 2+ billion USD every year is not even able to stop a bunch of dumb, uneducated, suicidal arab shits from murdering your children..and israel is barely able to stop that....I doubt they could stop VX, Sarin, Zyklon B (pun intended.), or whatever else Iran's madmen are making....and even if israel could win in a conventional war, at what cost...plus provided this senario ever did happen, youd have to worry about the rest of the arab nations would jump in just to see israel destroyed....and this would lead to a catostrophic war that would leave no winners.

I'd be willing to be the VX could kill more Israeli Civillians than Israel could kill suicidal palestinian shits.

And this isn't a Israel vs Iran, this is a America Vs. Iran...

We would win,

Israel vs Iran alone would depend on Israel's ability to stop shitloads of Chemcial missiles from being dumped on their country. and their abilty to destroy Iran's economic structure....plus eliminate the head of state along with key military and religious officials in a very quick and descisive manner.

Iran is not weak, and as much as I'd wish they where so our boys could go and invade like a cakewalk, its not going to happen...you need to stop underestimating our enemies...they will gas our troops, they have the weapons already....and god knows they might have nuclear missiles...and if a islamic fucking country like Iran figures its going down its going to pull out all the stops and potentially use its nuclear/chemcial armament in a last ditch effort to stay afloat and might give its tech to terrorists...then next thing you know your going to get vxed walking down the street....
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Fuck off. It's not my 2nd persona and only a ignorant, fuckstick like you would think of such...your just a stereotypical, arrogant, pompus jewish shitstain getting wiped off this "ragheads" ass...

Its like your like begging to be ethnically cleansed or something....go away and leave me alone.


Iran could take out Isreal becasue Israel would be outnumbered, and no amount of military hardware could save them from the "Mass amounts of chemical weapons" being produced by Iran....and for some reason other than our US finnanced weapons being sent over there and the 2+ billion USD every year is not even able to stop a bunch of dumb, uneducated, suicidal arab shits from murdering your children..and israel is barely able to stop that....I doubt they could stop VX, Sarin, Zyklon B (pun intended.), or whatever else Iran's madmen are making....and even if israel could win in a conventional war, at what cost...plus provided this senario ever did happen, youd have to worry about the rest of the arab nations would jump in just to see israel destroyed....and this would lead to a catostrophic war that would leave no winners.

I'd be willing to be the VX could kill more Israeli Civillians than Israel could kill suicidal palestinian shits.

And this isn't a Israel vs Iran, this is a America Vs. Iran...

We would win,

Israel vs Iran alone would depend on Israel's ability to stop shitloads of Chemcial missiles from being dumped on their country. and their abilty to destroy Iran's economic structure....plus eliminate the head of state along with key military and religious officials in a very quick and descisive manner.

Iran is not weak, and as much as I'd wish they where so our boys could go and invade like a cakewalk, its not going to happen...you need to stop underestimating our enemies...they will gas our troops, they have the weapons already....and god knows they might have nuclear missiles...and if a islamic fucking country like Iran figures its going down its going to pull out all the stops and potentially use its nuclear/chemcial armament in a last ditch effort to stay afloat and might give its tech to terrorists...then next thing you know your going to get vxed walking down the street....
Right now you need to concentrate on learning the difference between a "Pun" and innuendo before you set off on the task of writing works of fiction concerning the nature of politics and conflict in the middle east.

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Re: What Do You Make of This??

thats why almost nothing got past us when we started to attack iraq (and they did launch Scuds.) so keep talking you know nothing about avi. its funny.
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