Great article between the 426 Hemi and the Viper on a dyno.

[MHQC]

here it is

Those numbers seem a little low for the viper, no? They made no mention of using a fan in the article...maybe that was it.

[GTS Dean]

The Viper ratings are extremely low. However, there are some that get out the door with terrible performance numbers. An ex-pres of my club had a 1500 mile sapphire '01 creampuff that made 363 at the tire. After the bad news, he got the engine rebuilt by Arrow and got it up to well over 400.

[BigCarrot]

What a weak stick Viper! Shit throw mine in that story! 436/490 stock!

[Mark O]

I've seen a bone stock '97 with 27K miles dynoed at 427 hp. Knowing Mopar Muscle, they found the weakest Viper out there to do a comparison against a hemi, just to prove that the old iron is still as good as the new. Believe me, I've had my share of hemis & my stock Viper hands down blows them all away.

[tito]

Originally Posted by BigCarrot

Shit throw mine in that story! 436/490 stock!

Those are the highest numbers i have EVER heard of on a stock viper. That's just crazy. Crazy i tell you!

[Motor City MadMan]

Originally Posted by BigCarrot

What a weak stick Viper! Shit throw mine in that story! 436/490 stock!

You lucky son-of-a-bitch. That's about the hp/trq numbers I have after about $10,000 in mods. [img]/images/graemlins/cursin[/img]

[Mark O]

Originally Posted by Motor City MadMan

You lucky son-of-a-bitch. That's about the hp/trq numbers I have after about $10,000 in mods. [img]/images/graemlins/cursin[/img]

I saw one guy with a bumble bee Viper which had a complete new header/cat/exhaust, smooth tubes, & a couple other mods, on the dyno. He was ABSOLUTELY PISSED that his car made a few less hp than the bone stock '97. meanwhile, his misery was my laughs for the day after seeing the way he was carrying on after coming off the dyno. [img]/images/graemlins/supergrin.gif[/img]

[Torquemonster]

Here's an idea - all of you guys with more power on stock cars and with basic mods such as they suggested for the Hemi - like headers and K & N - send in your dyno graphs to Muscle Mopar mag via email and make the point that the car in the article was not representative of a good Viper. By the time they get more than 6 graphs of stock Vipers showing more than 400rwhp - they'll sit up and take notice.

If you stuck to original factory castings - block and heads - a fully built Viper engine could handle anything the factory casting Hemi could dish out on gas on the street, and probably on the track... nobody has taken the later generation casting V10 to its limits yet. The limit for a 426 Race Hemi in Super Stock is under 850hp at crank and that is with every trick known to man.

[Motor City MadMan]

Originally Posted by Mark O

I saw one guy with a bumble bee Viper which had a complete new header/cat/exhaust, smooth tubes, & a couple other mods, on the dyno. He was ABSOLUTELY PISSED that his car made a few less hp than the bone stock '97. meanwhile, his misery was my laughs for the day after seeing the way he was carrying on after coming off the dyno. [img]/images/graemlins/supergrin.gif[/img]

I think my problem is that my GTS was one of the very first built (1996 VIN #52), and that they rushed the first few out the door so they wouldn't get bad press about missing their launch date and tweaked the cars built later for more HP. Fucking Dodge bastards!!!!! My 96 Viper GTS is the grandfather of all GTS's. All yee must bow down before it an pay yee respects. [img]/images/graemlins/supergrin.gif[/img]

[EV2DEMON]

Originally Posted by Torquemonster

Here's an idea - all of you guys with more power on stock cars and with basic mods such as they suggested for the Hemi - like headers and K & N - send in your dyno graphs to Muscle Mopar mag via email and make the point that the car in the article was not representative of a good Viper. By the time they get more than 6 graphs of stock Vipers showing more than 400rwhp - they'll sit up and take notice.

If you stuck to original factory castings - block and heads - a fully built Viper engine could handle anything the factory casting Hemi could dish out on gas on the street, and probably on the track... nobody has taken the later generation casting V10 to its limits yet. The limit for a 426 Race Hemi in Super Stock is under 850hp at crank and that is with every trick known to man.

The article in question ran in Mopar Muscle about 4 years ago. If everyone sent their Viper Dyno sheets to them now, they probably wouldn't know why they were getting them. It's a bit after the fact now.