I know this may sound cruel, but they got what was coming to them. Dont take shit that isnt yours, dont drive without a liscense, wear your seat belt, dont run from the cops etc... They were ALL old enough to know right from wrong. They knew what they were doing when they took that car and sure as hell knew what they were doing when they ran from the cops. Yes, some of the fault is to blame on the parents. But, some kids NEVER learn, no matter what you teach them (sad, but true). Im with Craig, I dont really feel any sympathy for them. It is sad though that 7 young lives had to be taken because they wanted to experience the joy of taking a car (that didnt belong to them in the first place) and secondly running from the cops. That is just stupid judgement.
Austin, I agree with your argument, but not the extent. No child deserves to die (unless, arguably, they take a life). Take some time to "mature" in a jail cell, maybe...probably! But how about the other kids in the car? Did they deserve to die too? My point relates to the degree of punishment. Terribly unfortunate especially relative to the crime. Of course, they could have killed other while fleeing from the police...so, again, it's not so simple.
And will you and Craig PLEASE look up the spelling of LICENSE! [img]/images/graemlins/supergrin.gif[/img]
I know this may sound cruel, but they got what was coming to them. Dont take shit that isnt yours, dont drive without a liscense, wear your seat belt, dont run from the cops etc... They were ALL old enough to know right from wrong. They knew what they were doing when they took that car and sure as hell knew what they were doing when they ran from the cops. Yes, some of the fault is to blame on the parents. But, some kids NEVER learn, no matter what you teach them (sad, but true). Im with Craig, I dont really feel any sympathy for them. It is sad though that 7 young lives had to be taken because they wanted to experience the joy of taking a car (that didnt belong to them in the first place) and secondly running from the cops. That is just stupid judgement.
Austin, I agree with your argument, but not the extent. No child deserves to die (unless, arguably, they take a life). Take some time to "mature" in a jail cell, maybe...probably! But how about the other kids in the car? Did they deserve to die too? My point relates to the degree of punishment. Terribly unfortunate especially relative to the crime. Of course, they could have killed other while fleeing from the police...so, again, it's not so simple.
And will you and Craig PLEASE look up the spelling of LICENSE! [img]/images/graemlins/supergrin.gif[/img]
I knew I probably spelt it wrong. :doh:
City, I agree, no one deserves to die unless they commit a crime that deserves the death penalty. Im not saying those kids "deserved" to die, but they KNEW what they were doing. Atleast they killed themselves and not some innocent bystander/motorist.
no, there isnt anyone to blame. this is just one of those horrible tragic accidents that has ruined the lives of seven kids and their families.
I am going to print this and show my fellow adjusters. I never thought I would hear a plaintiff attorney say this? [img]/images/graemlins/laughing.gif[/img]
1.) I think we can all agree that the police are not even .00001% at fault in this situation. Anyone who goes down that road has ZERO common sense.
2.) Common sense tells you these kids probably have horrific parents. Not because they stole/borrowed a car.... Not because they were speeding.... Not even because they ran from the police... All of these stupid decision could fall squarely on the stupidity of a minor. But not knowing/caring where your 13 years old child is at 1 A.M.? That's a bad/nonexistent parent/parents.
3.) Heck, we all did stupid things as youth. Yes, you know right from wrong, but that doesn't stop you from making some terrible decisions. Live and learn. How extreme those stupid decisions will be are based on your peers, the values your parents tried to instill, and to a lesser extend maybe some genetic personality traits. Does that excuse any wrong-doings? No. You are liable for your actions. On the other hand, you can't expect the same thought process from a 13 year old as a 30 year old. So you don’t lump these people into the same group. YOU DO have more compassion for a 13 year old. YOU DO hope and pray he/she learns from the mistakes.
So who can you blame? No one 100%. Bad parents, bad peers, bad environment, and a teenage mind are a time-bomb waiting to blow. Does this excuse the decisions made by the minors. NO, NO, NO! But death gave these children no chance to learn from there mistakes. AND THAT’S THE TRAGEDY. The parents never did learn, hence there finger pointing at the police. AND THAT’S A SHAME.
shit happens, period. tragedy yes it is but shit still happens. why it is anymore, everyone is always trying to find "someone to blame" "whos at fault" etc.
im not even fucking old and i can remember when i fell off a bike; my parents didnt try to sue the fucking bike store for my broken ass. when i would get in a scuffle on the playground; lawsuits werent tossed around. a lew comment was made to a girl; sexual harassment wasnt filed.
its so fucked up anymore.
as for the kids in this story; just darwin at work unfortunately. sad one too
as for the pig; in this case johnnylaw was not the guilty biitch, usually they are though; mundane high speed pursuits; thats what radios are for.
shit happens, period. tragedy yes it is but shit still happens. why it is anymore, everyone is always trying to find "someone to blame" "whos at fault" etc.
im not even fucking old and i can remember when i fell off a bike; my parents didnt try to sue the fucking bike store for my broken ass. when i would get in a scuffle on the playground; lawsuits werent tossed around. a lew comment was made to a girl; sexual harassment wasnt filed.
its so fucked up anymore.
as for the kids in this story; just darwin at work unfortunately. sad one too
as for the pig; in this case johnnylaw was not the guilty biitch, usually they are though; mundane high speed pursuits; thats what radios are for.
I can not blame the parents and who be the first to blame them without personally knowing them. I could only imagine the life of pain they will feel. I feel that I have raised my 2 fairly well but will never know as each day brings on something new.
Parents do not go to a parent school and there is no practice.
As a parent you try to do your best,(most of us parents) you take how you were raised and improve on or stay as your parents raiser you.
If somehow you could get it through the kids heads that they are not bullet proof we as parents would have an easier task of raising our children. Until you become a parent you will never fully understand. Can you even start to feel the pain the parents most have felt 1 min. after answering that knock on their door?
no, there isnt anyone to blame. this is just one of those horrible tragic accidents that has ruined the lives of seven kids and their families.
I am going to print this and show my fellow adjusters. I never thought I would hear a plaintiff attorney say this? [img]/images/graemlins/laughing.gif[/img]
you know I am kidding with your Lawboy
lol! i know you wont believe me but im actually a pretty reasonable person...with a fairly good sense for right and wrong...blame and responsibility. at least i think so.....and my mom too! lol!!!
TROUTMAN, N.C. (Dec. 29) - A car trying to outrun a police officer ran off a road and crashed early Monday, killing all seven teenagers inside, the Highway Patrol said.
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Bills, however, said he tried to stop the car only briefly, following it about 500 yards before it sped out of sight.
How many of you really believe the cop tried only "briefly" to stop the car? I wasn't there, but I truly believe they chased the car causing this accident. My opinion is that cops create deadly situations with their pursuit of what I would consider "non-life threatening" pursuits. How many times have traffic violations turned into pursuits resulting in deadly accidents? I've seen this happen many, many times.
I guess it's a fine line between chasing someone who is breaking the law and creating a situation where innocent people are killed caused by that pursuit.
Happened in my back yard in NC. Lasted only 15 seconds so how can the police be at fault. Why is it in todays society no one can except responsiblity for their own actions. Yes they were all minors, so what. I knew what the hell I was doing when I was 15, no matter how juvenille, I knew there would be consequences for my actions. The police officer basically turned on his blue lights and the car took off, how is that his fault. Give me a break here. All the victims were black also, so I guess next it will be a race issue. Please, the kids made a stupid, all be it a tragic mistake. I would be horrified to lose a child like this but I would not blame the police in this case. I would blame myself for not knowing where my child was at 1 am.
Without any facts, no one can blame the Parents.
Blame the cops NO, if the kids were this stupid then given the right set of circumstances from their reaction here, they probably would have killed someone else.
Blame a Liberal society, YES
Blame the fact that everyday, some Asshole almost wipes me out, because it is a "Me First society". Where people don't even slow down on a Yellow Light, and Run Red Lights. People pull right out in front of you, figuring Fuck You, you will slam on the brakes to avoid hitting them.
Blame the Kids for being Dumbass. Hell Yes.
Atleast they killed themselves and not some innocent bystander/motorist.
