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Old August 11th, 2007, 10:07 PM   #33
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Okay guys, here is the update, but before I give that to you I want to say thank you to all for their constructive input. I started at 4 PM and finshed at 9 PM working on my car with my girlfriend helping me. We pulled off all the exhaust system from headers to tailpipes. There were 4 pipes dented in at the headers, one much worse than the pictures. The problem is the pipes were not leaking anywhere that I saw, yet I heard it when it was running. I still do not think that was the problem, but the good news is with the exhaust out of the way, it is much easier to see! I did the headers with the hod on and frankly it was a joke taking it all off. We spent more time getting tools and fighting that copper looking clamps that kicked my tail in getting off (never saw those before).

I cannot put my new headers and exhaust on until I get the new exhaust from the headers back and the header gaskets. In the meantime, I will look closely at the mounts and see if anything is hitting as the new mounts were higher than my stock mounts and I might be hitting at the tunnel at the top. I don't know what to do otherwise., but I know when the starter kicks in, I feel it and never felt it before but that could just be the new mounts or it could point to the engine/trans hitting somewhere too. I have a few pics and I can upload so you guys can see my little garages and set up and such, and I should be able to do that by Monday.

I started it before I took out the plugs (all 10 looked identical, so I do not think there is a cyl problem), and noticed the same shit. The little headlight aimers were jumping around. The exhaust, yes it was leaking some but I think it is the mounts making the motor hit maybe as it was just too much jumping with it running. Either way I was redoing the exhaust, but this motor would be a cinch to pull and redo compared to pulling my GTO motor. As for putting headers on my GTO, call it 12 hours (pull the engine) as they are BIG pipes, scatter shield, AC, et cetera.

Anyhow, that is my update but my gut is telling me that all that vibration wasn't form my exhaust, but I could be wrong. I'm getting a few bungs welded on for my wide band Innovate to hook into my vec2 for logging, so I hope that can show IF anything is wrong. I plan on doing a compression test to see if there are any inconsistencies in each cyl. Any other suggestions, please shoot. I will also take my serp belt off if I get it together to see if it is the blower maybe? Then out comes the trans again... I could make this a 1500+ HP machine if something is really wrong, and that is on the table but I'd like to keep this my daily beater and want it to get back on the road ASAP. Anyone know where to get a Random tech exhaust from a dealer that isn't mean, nasty, arrogant and has the time of day please LMK. I am so disappointed in some of the vendors in the Viper community it makes me want to get into the business and start my own shop and start selling parts. It surely isn't hard with capital, business acumen, Viper knowledge and time and sounds more appealing by the minute. I fix laptops and such and it has done me well, but just thinking out loud. Back to my problems, any suggestions feel free to keep firing and thank you all again for taking the time to reach out.

Gary
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Now that the prices of virtually everything are going up and up and now that thousands of people are losing their jobs everyday as the US goverment still hands out 10,000+ checks to those people just getting off the boat, I think I will take a boat ride and get in line, I sure could use the money to pay for the gas in my Viper and GTO!
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