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Old July 26th, 2007, 01:56 PM   #82
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Originally Posted by The Former PFR View Post
Nothing exotic about the technology, but the quantity of parts makes them expensive to fix. Plus, a system that will make 1200-1300 rwhp is going to have a BEAUTIFUL torque curve with MOAR area under the curve than a system with miniscule T3s. Paolo has made systems for Vipers that are pretty inexpensive. A Mustang turbo system is no where close to as difficult to design and make to a Viper system. Hell, if you only want 700 RWHP for cheap with the compromises that come with a cheap system, why not just by a used ROE supercharger?
Once again, I agree with you that's where I said the R&D will come in and why his is a hell of a deal. If you compare a true 100% DIY system to his, Paolo will BLOW it away.

As far as the roe, it makes a lot of since also to go that route. Some people just want a TT system though. I guess I have always been the guy to do my own R&D and feel proud when I accomplish something.

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Originally Posted by ROGUE GTS
It's not exotic what so ever... but it's also a dodge (mopar) and parts aren't as inexpensive as the others.

I still wouldn't put junkyard turbos and such on it. You really want to save $400 on WGs only to jeopardize a full motor rebuild? Ever seen a cheap wg lock up and spike the boost pressure? I have, sounds like someone poured a coffee can of ball bearings into the throttle body, rods end up bent, twisted, and usually ventilate the block. So that $400 savings just cost you $10grr... well done.
Ok, buy the good wastegates(once again they don't have to be exotic ones that will handle 1200-1300rwhp so a price savings would still be seen). I have seen cheap WG foul up, I have also seen high quality name brand ones mess up also. No matter how much money you spend, when you go aftermarket SOMETHING is going to break. That's just the way the hobby works.

I personally have no problem slapping on, "junkyard" turbos on a simple DIY system. Will I get the best performance? No. Will I hit my desired goals for considerbly less money? Yes.

I didnt mean to start a pissing match. Just saying a simple DIY setup for the guy not looking to make monster numbers can be done for a "reasonable" price.

In all actuallity, when it comes down to it and I'm ready to put a TT system on a viper, ill probally look into Paolo base 10k system and do the rest myself. I eventually want to make that 1200-1300rwhp. I sure can't have my mustang putting down more power then a viper
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