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Re: in need of legal advice
Old June 10th, 2003, 10:57 PM   #3
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Re: in need of legal advice

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Originally Posted by nohsreg2000
Hey folks i am the humble owner of a 93 rt-10 and i thought this being a viper board we might have some legal experts here.

On sunday nights my wife and i go to the local cruz spot in my town which has been the same cruz spot for 40+ years(so i am told i am 27) it is divided into varius sections covering 10? miles of the same road. It is fairly typical with certain areas made up of low riders just cruzin and certain areas made up of the street racing/rod/hangout and bs crowd. I fall into the latter crowd as I never street race but i do enjoy the action and the friends. We hang out in three seperate lots over a 3 mile section of the cruz spot(the other 7ish miles is for low riders and none performance oriented imports and what not and is usually associated with drugs ,fights , and general thugery(a word?) and their section is generaly not transgressed by the performance/rodder oriented crowd and vice versa. Of our 3 hang out lots 1 is a large car wash that the owner has given us ongoing permision to hang out there after hours on sunday cruz nights.(we dont leave trash or vandalise perhaps the occasinal burnout leaving the lot)the second lot is a gas station that is open and also allows us to hang out. and the 3rd is a public side street no longer in use that paralels the cruz road for about 1000 yards(great vantage point for watching the street races). The police whom have three overtime cops every sunday dedicated to our little three mile section spend their time patroling the roads busting those who break the law. This is the way it goes and i understand that if you play you must pay(although they wright a lot of tickits for chicken sh#t stuff..licence plate light not bright enough.... and get a little heavy handed) they never bother those parked in one of the lots, they drive through a lot and do all their spot lighting bullsh#$ but they leave us alone and around 3am tell us to go home. I assume that is when they are off duty. We all leave and that is a sunday night at the "spot". This past week however when people started showing up (usually around 9pm) the cops had 2 of the 3 lots cleared and would not allow anyone to park. Telling all commers that their would no longer be any hanging out on sundays. The 3rd lot (the open gas station) was full of cars (but not to many more than ussual) at about 10pm the police went inside the gas station emerged about 10 min later and told us to leave and never come back. now do we not have a constitutional right to peacable assembly. and what about the right of a land owner to give permision to some one to use their property ???? their was no new city ordinance and the best we can figure it was the wekend fast and furios came out as well as the end of public school for the summer. ironicly the police did not kick out the cruzers on the "other side of the tracks" from their lots. with the exeption of traffic violations (admittedly some pretty bad) on our end of the "spot" there is rarely any problems. on the other end every week results in an altercation or something that ussually ends up on the news. and without anyplace to park most people where forced onto the streets(my wife being the voice of reson saw the red flags all over this and heading her advice we went home post haste) others however were not so lucky leading to an all time record number of tickets and an assalt on two young women(racer chicks who went to the cruzer lot that was allowed to remain open, they found the police showed them their bruises and the kicked in quater pannel on their car, pointed out the perps and the police gave them( the girls )a number to call WTF!!!!. so from a legal stand point what can be done about are lots. i am not an extravigantly wealthy man but this seems like the kind of thing that someone like the aclu would be all over. what are the limits of police power? what recourse do we have when they do illegal things? any advice? anone with a similar experiance?
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